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I really wouldn't make them subtemplates. The only relation they have to the Family tree template is that they use it. Subtemplates should usually be utilized by the parent template itself (Like how this particular template happens to have a /Element sub; also, every /doc). I'm really not going to stop you (or discuss this any further (it's not really a big deal)), but I'd prefer if we set a precedent of naming them as "Template:<Name> family".

Do you have any idea of when you might do this. I've been feeling kinda bored lately, so I might do this in the coming weeks. I also have a request: When/if you make any lineage templates, redirect their documentation to Template:Family tree/doc. I think I'd rather have explanation of that template appear on their page instead of some stupid filler "This template displays this lineage."

Also, 1m, yes or no? You were a superb door partner. MolManFsw1 13:56, March 9, 2014 (UTC)


Yep -- Spined helm SpineTalkXp book 15:20, March 9, 2014 (UTC)


Well, you don't really miss anything by not reading the books, it's just background lore that's barely referenced in the quest, they're just as enjoyable (if not more so) if read afterwards. As for the puzzle solution, seeing as it's a quest guide, I don't think we have to be worried about spoiling the solution, if people didn't want spoilers, they wouldn't be reading a quest guide. Wahisietel rejuvenated chathead Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon 21:09, March 13, 2014 (UTC)

I only put the chatheads in sections with few images, and again, if they wanted just a hint, they probably shouldn't be looking at a quest guide. I removed the line breaks because they're cluttery. Regarding images: you can zoom in, move the dialogue box closer to what's happening, and crop out irrelevant stuff. I actually have the same screen size as you, I believe. Wahisietel rejuvenated chathead Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon 21:21, March 13, 2014 (UTC)

Some new lore pagesEdit

They probably need more work. They're all based on Palkeera's memory.

I just redirected Byzroth to lesser demon, and left a short blurb on that page. I also put similar ones on black demon and lesser demon, and a short paragraph on K'ril Tsutsaroth as well.

Man, these memories are a lot of work to fit into existing lore. I ain't even touching pages like Freneskae. Divination-icon AnselaJonla Daily Challenge map icon 21:06, March 18, 2014 (UTC)


Look what I did to it. MolManFsw1 18:21, March 19, 2014 (UTC)

"Known Mahjarrat" sectionEdit

I'm not so sure each of the newly introduced Mahjarrat need a segment under the Known Mahjarrat list. It makes the page look and feel incredibly cluttered, as the only ones that were in the prior list, bar Khazard and Zamorak, have a Mahjarrat Memory entry. The others are simply names with bits of personality included, which gives too few information. I'd want to move that back down to the small section I created initially, just for visual's sake. Thoughts? Amascut symbol Amascut Ia Morte 00:55, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

The only reason I kept them around is their Mahjarrat Memories entries, haha. I'll make a few changes though! Amascut symbol Amascut Ia Morte 17:35, March 23, 2014 (UTC)

edits on SerenEdit

1. I haven't violated any rule.

2. you are wrong. Zaros did say that her and Seren are twins. Ive spoken with char pre fotg quest and she never mentioned spying on Seren.

I'm not undoing my edits. since the bulk of your edits on Seren are removing large parts of the page and supplying false info, I suggest that you stop editing Seren until you get your facts correct.  Seren symbolHeavyoak Talk Zaros symbol 09:53, March 29, 2014 (UTC)

that rule that you keep quoting only applies to 3 reverts in a row, not 2. and I have read the book of char. also, made = born. even zaros says that. -- Seren symbolHeavyoak Talk Zaros symbol 10:03, March 29, 2014 (UTC)
he said that he wants to send a party, it does not say that he sent char. have you collected all the memory crystals? while I cant find proof right now, he does say it. -- Seren symbolHeavyoak Talk Zaros symbol 10:10, March 29, 2014 (UTC)
ive done firemakers curse. it seems you haven't. and go ahead, revert my reverts or your reverts because that page just needs more wrong info. i'll just do a clean edit with the correct info. -- Seren symbolHeavyoak Talk Zaros symbol 10:15, March 29, 2014 (UTC)
try providing proof that its true. -- Seren symbolHeavyoak Talk Zaros symbol 10:22, March 29, 2014 (UTC)
Personally, I see him sending Char and co as more "checking his sister is okay because he was worried about her" rather than spying. It could also be part of his claiming the World Gate from her. At any rate, the word "spying" is never used, just scouting. So yes, the "spying" section could be phrased better. Wahisietel rejuvenated chathead Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon 10:37, March 29, 2014 (UTC)

New pagesEdit

PLEASE please please please make sure to properly reference any new lore-related articles you make. Otherwise it's one-line articles that nobody can learn anything more about. ʞooɔ 10:32, March 29, 2014 (UTC)

sailing jingleEdit

where ingame does that play? :o --Jlun2 (talk) 14:04, April 1, 2014 (UTC)


Don't say "Nigger" MolManFsw1 16:43, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

It's a pejorative regardless of its etymology. If you think otherwise, you're a bigot. MolManFsw1 16:51, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
In the football leagues, footballers have got in trouble for calling another player black in their native tongue (Spanish, usually). Divination-icon AnselaJonla Daily Challenge map icon 16:53, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
It's usage that matters, not origins. If you really believe that to be true, go around calling black people exclusively "nigger" for the next week. MolManFsw1 17:00, April 3, 2014 (UTC)
Fswe, here in the Netherlands, the word 'neger' has a lot less bad meaning attached to it than it does in english-speaking countries, especially the USA. People have been fired over the use of the word 'nigger', and it is almost always used in a negative way (except for when black people themselves use it, according to US-made TV). So, just like in the 'gay means happy' discussion, and I'm not going to argue with you over this again, but the meaning changed. In this case, from simply being a word that means the exact same as 'black', to a very derogatory term for black people. If you're going to apply the logic of 'the origins' of a word, then you're also going to be able to use the same word for ass, tit, cock, and probably a lot of other words. That's the thing with bad words: they usually find origin as a second meaning for an existing word, and they gradually become more common than the original meaning.
So, please just never use it anywhere ever again. Both so you don't insult others, and so you don't get hated by people for using a word that has so much negativity attached to it.
PS: Wiktionary, which is a wikimedia project (wikimedia is famous for its neutrality) even agrees with what I'd assume is 99% of the English-speakers, in saying that 'nigger' is an ethnic slur. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 21:25, April 3, 2014 (UTC)


Oops, I didn't scroll down far enough. I didn't see that he'd moved it; I thought he got rid of it entirely. But I never reverted it, what are you talking about? Bluefire2Talk edit my sig 09:57, April 5, 2014 (UTC)

Frown Bluefire2Talk edit my sig 10:02, April 5, 2014 (UTC)

Infobox deityEdit

Just as I expressed in the sentence summarising my alteration to the article, tending towards the terminology that is technically correct is not always necessary, due to the potential inability of the peruser to fully comprehend its denotation. Bluefire2Talk edit my sig 06:19, April 8, 2014 (UTC)

That's irrelevant because there is a monster in RS with the name Icyene, and another one with the name Vampyre. 'Autonym', on the contrary, is not mentioned anywhere in the game. Not only does it make your argument invalid, but also remember that people who play RS are more likely to know what Icyenes and Vampyres are in the first place because they are things from the game. And please explain how "presenting accurate information" with no regard to whether people understand it in the first place or not is somehow our aim here. We might as well say that if people are too lazy to check a monster's drops, that's their problem - not ours. Bluefire2Talk edit my sig 10:45, April 8, 2014 (UTC)
You misunderstood. I'm saying that your logic is like deleting drop tables because if users don't check the drops themselves (by killing monsters in the game), that's, well, their fault. And do explain how the term is "wrong". Anyway, I'm not against "autonym" by definition; putting Autonym (adjective) would be fine. Bluefire2Talk edit my sig 14:33, April 8, 2014 (UTC)
Ok, sure, they can look up the word. They can also look up drop tables on RuneHq. However, after reading "some people", I realised that the only way to settle this would be some real data. I went to the GE and asked 10 people, at random, whether they knew what an 'autonym' was. Good news, 3/10 did.
We are a website whose point is to document RuneScape. What use is documenting if people can't understand it (9/10 knew 'decapitate')? Bluefire2Talk edit my sig 14:49, April 8, 2014 (UTC)
Now, now. Never did I say that we should present inferior information, but rather that we should provide a simpler word that, for the context needed here, encompasses fully the meaning of the more complicated one. If you can replace a complicated word with a simpler one, why wouldn't you? Bluefire2Talk edit my sig 15:38, April 8, 2014 (UTC)
I believe I have asked you several times to explain exactly how it is "less accurate". Bluefire2Talk edit my sig 17:01, April 8, 2014 (UTC)
OK. Now, since you're so insistent on the user's common sense being able to work out what 'autonym' means, surely you agree that they can also work out what Adjective | Zamorakian means? Bluefire2Talk edit my sig 17:23, April 8, 2014 (UTC)
Yet more silly analogies. Reason 1 is that, while 'Zamorakian' is the adjective for Zamorak, the same cannot be said for alignment as a noun and ascension as a verb phrase. Reason 2 is that, trust me, 'alignment' and 'ascension' are far more well-known than 'autonym'.
Look, as much as I love arguing (I actually do), I'm getting bored of this and I can see that it's going nowhere, with the only result being both of us becoming more and more worked up about what is, really, quite a mundane issue. I'll leave it for you to decide. I believe that I've presented you with enough points and arguments for you to make an educated choice, and I will respect it regardless of what it turns out to be. Bluefire2Talk edit my sig 17:51, April 8, 2014 (UTC)
I disagree, and there's a whole textwall telling you why. But the choice is yours. Bluefire2Talk edit my sig 18:14, April 8, 2014 (UTC)
Why is it his choice? Ancient talisman Oil4 Talk 18:14, April 8, 2014 (UTC)
I don't care either way tbh. Autonym is more descriptive but our goal is to inform people, not confuse them. Both have their merits. Ancient talisman Oil4 Talk 18:34, April 8, 2014 (UTC)


I also checked, as did Coel. Look at his hands. Divination-icon AnselaJonla Daily Challenge map icon 15:23, April 8, 2014 (UTC)

I don't care for the stance so much (since it hasn't really been altered) as much as the new face and hands. It's easy to see the current graphics and know that an image is from before 2013. And it was "uploaded just to annoy me"? Do you own the file or something? If you dislike it, why not try to take a better version of the image? Honour Coelacanth0794 Talk Square sandwich 17:31, April 8, 2014 (UTC)

Why do the changes to the hands and face not qualify as a reason to update the image? Honour Coelacanth0794 Talk Square sandwich 17:37, April 8, 2014 (UTC)

Re: PollcastEdit

Is there a Podcast wiki article I'm missing besides Above the Lore and Pollcast? From what I gather, all of the latest Podcasts have been added to the Pollcast page, even if they haven't exactly been advertised as such (description of the Podbean entry, ...). Also, your removal comment was that it wasn't a "podcast", not "pollcast".
Though frankly, perhaps it's a better idea to make a general Podcast page, with either subsections, or the "type of podcast" (pollcast, above the lore, other) as an additional table column. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 18:50, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

I'll take a look at it this evening then, I should have some spare time. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 11:42, May 5, 2014 (UTC)
This should be everything from the "Other" section, I hope. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 17:17, May 5, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Easter basketEdit

Here you go. -- Spined helm SpineTalkXp book 15:02, April 13, 2014 (UTC)

Decorative sword GUEdit

Put them somewhere or they shall be terminated. Signature5.pngSignature5Last.png 18:01, April 13, 2014 (UTC)

RE: BoL graphEdit

  1. Disagree with colour choices. Earlier, the colours used were according to the in-game HUD.
  2. The line graph is okay, but why are we using a trend line (not joining any of the data points) instead of a normal line (joining the data points)? We are using accurate data, not interpolated data. It is hard to see the "jumps" in the score during certain phases.
  3. Why do we need zero in the time axis? There isn't a Day Zero during an event. Day 1 to 73 would be better, with Day 8, 15... being the beginning of different phases.

  az talk   04:30, April 22, 2014 (UTC)

  1. Okay. Tell Jagex that...
  2. Discrete or continuous? And how do we determine whether its straight or curved? Linear, exponential, polynomial, etc?
  3. Phase 1 was day 1 to 7. Phase 2 was Day 8 to 15. Where should the axis line cross? Day 7 or Day 8? Should we amend our articles and data table as well, because its stated Phase 2 started at Day 8?
  4. Okay.
  az talk   07:37, April 22, 2014 (UTC)
p.s. Our exchange graphs (GEMW graphs) connect the points as well. Not very accurate since prices change all the time... I just took those graphs (or any stock market chart) as a basis for connecting the points. In fact, an earlier version of the image had Dates as the horizontal axis, similar to how stock market charts are displayed.   az talk   07:55, April 22, 2014 (UTC)


I don't recall agreeing to this, nor do I recall any discussion at all taking place. Wahisietel rejuvenated chathead Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon 08:59, April 29, 2014 (UTC)

I saw the tweet but I didn't respond to it. IMO, as a god, Loarnab should have a god infobox, regardless of how much we know about him or her. Camel god and the The Kendal (god) have infoboxes, after all. The amount of information we know about Loarnab isn't that much less than what we knew of Saradomin, Zamorak, Guthix, Armadyl, ect until very recently. Wahisietel rejuvenated chathead Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon 13:53, April 29, 2014 (UTC)
NPC's that don't appear in-game are not NPCs, gods that don't appear ingame are still gods. Also, we know it's a Hydra, but we have no proper sauce for that :(. Wahisietel rejuvenated chathead Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon 18:01, April 29, 2014 (UTC)
Loarnab content inmay, confirmed by someone who isn't Mod Jack. At any rate, I think he/she should have an infobox regardless of how incomplete it is, it makes it easier to expand it in future and stuff. Wahisietel rejuvenated chathead Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon 19:35, April 29, 2014 (UTC)
Whatever, I don't particularly care, but I still think all gods should have infoboxes, regardless of how much we know of them. Wahisietel rejuvenated chathead Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon 08:07, April 30, 2014 (UTC)


Gifs shouldn't be that big. They're animations, not images. Yours was choppy too. -- Spined helm SpineTalkXp book 14:50, April 30, 2014 (UTC)

Cow graphicsEdit

You're missing the "minor" cow update that happened at the same time as Ashdale. Not that noticable on most cows but very noticable on the undead and plague cows. At any rate, upload those ones too pls. Wahisietel rejuvenated chathead Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon 15:37, May 1, 2014 (UTC)


"The Iowerth Clan will have the highest level Slayer master yet, Morvran, who offers preferred Slayer tasks"

So... does this mean slayer capes will have a new seller? Divination-icon AnselaJonla Daily Challenge map icon 08:31, May 4, 2014 (UTC)

Hidden textEdit

Unfortunately the hidden text notes are not visible at all in visual editor. Equally unfortunately, the instructions such notes tend to contain are mostly aimed at the sort of newbies that use visual editor. Divination-icon AnselaJonla Daily Challenge map icon 07:48, May 5, 2014 (UTC)

Wish I knew. Divination-icon AnselaJonla Daily Challenge map icon 08:00, May 5, 2014 (UTC)
It's cause Wikia thinks it's easier for new users. We tried disabling it once before and Wikia got mad Ring of kinship Ciphrius Kane Dungeoneering cape (t) 08:29, May 5, 2014 (UTC)


It still needs a source. If I thought it was false, I would have removed it instead of just tagging it. Hearsay citation is a bad habit. MolManFsw1 10:56, May 13, 2014 (UTC)

If you're looking for a source, wasn't there either a Podcast or post-update FAQs that discussed Loarnub? Perhaps that source can be used for the problem at hand. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 11:01, May 13, 2014 (UTC)
Can you start taking more pictures. I'd figure you of all people would want us to actually source these things. MolManFsw1 13:47, May 13, 2014 (UTC)
It doesn't suffice. It's nothing more than hearsay, and if we allow that, then we are setting ourselves up to say whatever we want. I know it's be done in the past, but it's bad, and it should stop. MolManFsw1 14:42, May 13, 2014 (UTC)
I'm not saying it's false, I'm saying you have no way of verifying it. Which is true. Yet, you should have one. MolManFsw1 14:47, May 13, 2014 (UTC)


Will try and remember next time. Only uploaded coz Tony couldn't figure out how to get images out of a pdf. Divination-icon AnselaJonla Daily Challenge map icon 18:02, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
P.S. if you know of a better way to do that than zoom, prntscrn and crop, could you share please? Divination-icon AnselaJonla Daily Challenge map icon 18:02, May 14, 2014 (UTC)
P.P.S. I had to stop halfway through adding the new info to Prifddinas and now can't load the bloody pdf again. Want to continue? I reached the portals section. Divination-icon AnselaJonla Daily Challenge map icon 18:04, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

It was interesting. Little bits of lore and some more details on what the city's going to be like. Sounds like it's going to be good, in theory, although time will tell if it actually gets used as intended. Some of the clan skill pairings seem logical (melee/slayer, ranged/mage), but others are pretty wtf (dung/herb). Divination-icon AnselaJonla Daily Challenge map icon 18:07, May 14, 2014 (UTC)


Do we really need to show people how to get to Sophanem? --Jute chathead oldScuzzy BetaBurthorpe lodestone icon 16:09, May 15, 2014 (UTC)

BTW you should make some "horrors" for me --Jute chathead oldScuzzy BetaBurthorpe lodestone icon 16:15, May 15, 2014 (UTC)

RE:Adamant full helmEdit

But yours has this stray....thing on top:

Also flipping would mess with the lighting. I have the original, if you want to try making it better:
--Jlun2 (talk) 10:13, May 16, 2014 (UTC)

Before anything else, for File:Adamant_full_helm_chathead.png there was reflection thing on helmet and it was reverted. For File:Dragon_full_helm_chathead.png there was no reflection thing and it was reverted. -- Spined helm SpineTalkXp book 02:33, May 17, 2014 (UTC)


I wish these two would agree on the pronunciation of Iorwerth. God damnit. Divination-icon AnselaJonla Daily Challenge map icon 11:44, May 17, 2014 (UTC)


I fixed it within a minute. >_> τεmυjιn 00:04, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

Lucy NEdit

I made a horror for something, and I think you should see it: sXTikQC.png It's "Lucy N". --Jute chathead oldScuzzy BetaBurthorpe lodestone icon 18:13, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

And here's if they ever updated Postie Pete's chathead: DXwdgha.png --Jute chathead oldScuzzy BetaBurthorpe lodestone icon 19:37, July 2, 2014 (UTC)


"It's also unknown what his favourite colour was, how his best friend on Abbinah would address his mum, and how he would defend the philosophical contributions of a cucumber."

Dude that's some serious stuff right there. How could you let this happen!? RandomPersonThatYouDon'tKnow (talk) 20:33, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

Phew, you had me worried there. Also, that monobook template is pretty annoying so I had to take out the monobook part of the link. Why do you make life so hard... RandomPersonThatYouDon'tKnow (talk) 06:26, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Concept art and stufffEdit yeah...just linking this here (if you didnt already know of this)  ChaoticShadow Zaros symbol  Talk  Guest book  Sandbox  Contribs   06:03 May 21, 2014 (UTC)  

Winter of 114Edit

Can you get more information on the validity of it than one person who has read the novels? I am certain the creator of the page as well as all the people who linked to that page also read the novels. Signature5.pngSignature5Last.png 08:16, May 21, 2014 (UTC)


Why are you using undo summaries when you do more than just undoing. Next time, why can't you make an entirely new summary and put "Correcting update". Instead of undoing my edit without giving a reason and then continuing to edit in the same revision? MolManFsw1 17:44, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

You can just blank it then pls. MolManFsw1 17:45, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Stop editing because you are bad at itEdit

Do you know much about the various composers of RuneScape music/where to find info on them. I'd like to make a page similar to Content Developers for them. MolManFsw1 15:17, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

;( MolManFsw1 15:45, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

RE:Obsolete imagesEdit

They used the old player model, so technically, obsolete. Unless you're one of those people who enjoy old models. --Jlun2 (talk) 15:50, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

With that logic, then that means most of the animations gif would never be updated, since Jagex pretty much never updates them --Jlun2 (talk) 15:54, May 26, 2014 (UTC)
That's the lazy route. You're just using that as an excuse to work less. --Jlun2 (talk) 15:58, May 26, 2014 (UTC)
Why don't you make a yew thread about this? I'm going to add the tag back. --Jlun2 (talk) 15:59, May 26, 2014 (UTC)
Why don't you get on chat and explain then? --Jlun2 (talk) 16:02, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Seren StatueEdit

The announcement of the upcoming 'Seren statue' is completely relevant to the Seren page - considering very little content exists on the page and also, it's an important release about the subject! Italay90 (talk) 19:29, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

same image 6 timesEdit

cus I'm testing my script. I'll delete the unnecessary ones though. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 15:36, May 29, 2014 (UTC)

Lore projectEdit

Where do I sign up? ^^' --Jute chathead oldScuzzy BetaBurthorpe lodestone icon 10:54, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

Top TrumpsEdit

I have them and a scanner. Want me to do the logical thing? --Jute chathead oldScuzzy BetaBurthorpe lodestone icon 00:05, June 9, 2014 (UTC)

Wouldn't {{fairuse}} cover it? --Jute chathead oldScuzzy BetaBurthorpe lodestone icon 15:52, June 9, 2014 (UTC)


You know, maybe a better name than the craptacular "Gates" would prevent the confusion of "where am I meant to orb for these?" And yes, I can see that only one person suffers from this affliction. Divination-icon AnselaJonla Daily Challenge map icon 17:02, June 9, 2014 (UTC)


It was more than just the writing (which Ben admitted to being intentionally colorful). And no, we are not here to entertain. Prose doesn't have to be boring, but it should never read like a story book. And as I explained, I found some of the information hard to believe and asked for sources. There have been recent problems on feedback I've been reading about the wiki, and lack of sources for information like this should not be. If I had a hard time buying everything said, what about the random reader? Ben provided adequate citation, and I thanked him for that. The page still needs a bit of cleanup, but it's not something that I would even consider removing anymore. MolManFsw1 12:32, June 10, 2014 (UTC)

The magnitude of the intentional frivolities and extraneous language was egregious. In fact, that's what tipped me over. If the language was more serious, I might have had a bit more faith in the actual info, but reading the article, I stopped believing the content was serious or legitimate. MolManFsw1 12:47, June 10, 2014 (UTC)
You smell
Ummmm I'm doing the new quest. Is there anything you or someone missed that I maybe need to get during the quest? I see a redlink on Yelps to be made and I made Dad (junior). But that looks like it's it to me. MolManFsw1 13:47, June 10, 2014 (UTC)
You are going to love the edit I make after this one here. MolManFsw1 13:52, June 10, 2014 (UTC)


I have all the gnomeballs. Can you perhaps record me playing with my balls? And upload as gifs to the wiki. MolManFsw1 17:40, June 13, 2014 (UTC)

No. Ryan only covered his balls a little bit. We have 3 images of him playing with his balls, but there are 7 emotes in total. MolManFsw1 17:52, June 13, 2014 (UTC)
Btw did u see the picture of my 2 best balls? Zaros and Jas look so cool MolManFsw1 18:05, June 13, 2014 (UTC)

Quest NumbersEdit

User:Xt0rt3r seems to have done that to a lot of quests, not just grouping quest numbers, but also changing them. I guess it's based on this page of his; but don't ask me whether that's the right way of going about it. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 10:52, June 15, 2014 (UTC)


Lol forgot that, still though Azzanadra rejuvenated chatheadEnixus Zaros symbol 13:32, June 17, 2014 (UTC)

History subpagesEdit

IMO, if a page isn't 50k+ bytes, it doesn't need splitting. When the History page is pretty much the ONLY part of the article, it's also pretty unnecessary to split, since the 10% or so percent that isn't the history page wouldn't contribute very much to load times. Drakan is a prime example of such. Wahisietel rejuvenated chathead Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon 12:09, June 18, 2014 (UTC)

Bandos and Zaros are fine, they had a significant amount of content besides the history sections, so the split was justified. But Drakan's only real content is the history section, and if you're gonna be looking at the history section anyway (which most people who actually read the page will), the extra 6,916 bytes won't really make any difference.
All the ones at Arandar use staves, there are some with staves and some with vials at ardougne. Wahisietel rejuvenated chathead Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon 20:11, June 18, 2014 (UTC)
They haven't thrown vials since EOC, alas. And no, the infoboxes cannot be merged as they all have different stats. It's tidier to have them all different anyway, easier to read. Wahisietel rejuvenated chathead Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon 20:16, June 18, 2014 (UTC)
'cause I felt like annoying you :P. At least Oronwen looks good. Wahisietel rejuvenated chathead Wahisietel (Talk) Quest map icon 20:18, June 18, 2014 (UTC)

Mep1 Edit

Hey mate, I was just wondering why you removed the items needed before each section on the quest page.

Cheers 22:50, June 20, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for adding it back in! I really appreciate it. 

Cheers 05:48, June 25, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Devious MindsEdit

The purpose of the recommended items section is to note some items that might make the quest easier/quicker, usually by reducing travelling times. The average player won't care that Missing, Presumed Death is Sixth Age and Devious Minds is Fifth Age. Most new players will have long finished the novice difficulty MPD by the time they get round to DM. There is no reason not to include the invitation box as a teleport item recommendation. Divination-icon AnselaJonla Daily Challenge map icon 13:20, June 21, 2014 (UTC)


To you too >.> --Jute chathead oldScuzzy BetaBurthorpe lodestone icon 05:17, June 22, 2014 (UTC)

Forgive my completely useless retort & small temper. I was drinking last night. Anywho, they're target reticules. Red circle means the enemy your fighting & yellow means its attacking you. (in case you didn't know) --Jute chathead oldScuzzy BetaBurthorpe lodestone icon 16:50, June 22, 2014 (UTC)


I just feel its a waste of a great image which looks great and intrigues the reader. --Jute chathead oldScuzzy BetaBurthorpe lodestone icon 19:00, June 25, 2014 (UTC)


Just a friendly reminder that I've made {{HTML5}} a thing! Tag it on HTML5 images in the future! :3 --Jute chathead oldScuzzy BetaBurthorpe lodestone icon 22:47, June 26, 2014 (UTC)

For future referenceEdit

Images always look alot better when taken with water detail on in Direct X. --Jute chathead oldScuzzy BetaBurthorpe lodestone icon 15:58, June 28, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe try OpenGLX(in beta)? I mean, mine looks fine. Not to steal your thunder, as i hate it when people do that to me, but if you're capturing something with water you could hand it to me. Always looks sleek for me: File:Big Chompy Bird Hunting - Rantz.png --Jute chathead oldScuzzy BetaBurthorpe lodestone icon 16:06, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
In that instance it was used for the skybox, instead of the icky fog. But, noted for future reference. --Jute chathead oldScuzzy BetaBurthorpe lodestone icon 17:27, June 28, 2014 (UTC)

Is this meant to be unused? Edit

File:Lathus old.png (it's spelt wrong too btw). cqm 09:17, 1 Jul 2014 (UTC)

Show me the ingame Infernus dictionary Edit

Or concede that you're just being... silly and refuse or acknowledge that there is such a thing as Latin... also within the history of the game. . . . Yours, Void Knight banner AddictEnkidu Talk Quest Icon Crest . . 12:52, July 3, 2014 (UTC)

So you fail to answer my question. Then tell me, how did you get the meaning of their names..? . . . Yours, Void Knight banner AddictEnkidu Talk Quest Icon Crest . . 14:29, July 7, 2014 (UTC)
Meanwhile there is no Infernal dictionary and the language is Latin. And yes a vandalism warning, I've corrected your mistake, I've proposed compromise as well (I started with that even). I've motivated the change in the description. If you disagree, you too can initiate the Talk:. . . . Yours, Void Knight banner AddictEnkidu Talk Quest Icon Crest . . 13:50, July 9, 2014 (UTC)
There is such a thing as Latin, you speak it all the time, there's even Latin in game (but insofar as I know the direct reference has been removed, while the general lore stayed quite similar). Furthermore there is no such thing as an In-game Infernal dictionary so there's no way to know for sure that those names mean what the article says they mean... unless you say Infernal=Latin, but that's not a concession you dare to make. . . . Yours, Void Knight banner AddictEnkidu Talk Quest Icon Crest . . 16:34, July 9, 2014 (UTC)

"random i signs"Edit

They're a part of {{Location link}} made especially for PTS --Jute chathead oldScuzzy BetaBurthorpe lodestone icon 04:15, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

Birds eye jackEdit

For some reason Jagex upped the contrast for whatever reason, in case you were wondering. --Jute chathead oldScuzzy BetaBurthorpe lodestone icon 13:04, July 12, 2014 (UTC)

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