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Contents 1 1st second or third person 2 100 links 3 about the rule 4 Amaurice + Home Page 5 Hehe 6 Mainpage 7 Tylersyx6 8 RE:Main page 9 Re:Main page 10 Do you know how? 11 Azbot 12 RSWP 13 RE: Kandarin: The Fourth Empire 14 Center tag 15 RE:Main page 16 The rollback thingy 17 Charts 18 Re:Development Diary: Animating 19 More siteNotice CSS+JS 20 RE:FIMG nomination for "Lesser reborn ranger" 21 Re: Dates 22 RE:Redesigning exchange pages 23 Question 24 While Guthix Sleeps - Herblore 25 Re: Links for years in date articles 26 Sorry that you dont agree 27 Re: Main Page Feedback 28 RE: Main Page 29 Unused files 30 AzBot 31 Yum! 32 Orphaned images 33 RE: 34 RE:Orphan pages/files 35 RE:Sushi 36 Hurston's orphan pages 37 GEMH Files 38 Made me more confident... 39 MP feedback progress 40 RE:Strikethrough tag 41 RE: Main Page 42 September's RSWP 43 Moving GEWH images 44 Comas 45 Ceased item? 46 Deleting images 47 Signature guide... 48 re: swearing

[edit] 1st second or third person

Remember that great discussion of last year? It has come time again and I have no idea where it is and I was hoping to recheck it for points to use in current discussion. It isn't in the style guide or its talk page, and if it was yew grove it got lost or something. Any clues Az?--Degenret01 03:43, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Az, once again you kik butt.--Degenret01 12:37, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] 100 links

I'm trying to work out ways to recude the number of links. Maybe there are possibilities with the link attribute rel=nofollow, to have less links where our pagerank leaks to. I asked Dr5ag2on1 and Richard1990 about this. ElfAnurin . 15:45, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

And here's a site I found; Pagerank Explained. ElfAnurin . 15:47, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] about the rule

i understand it was a long time ago i understand the owner of the site told me about it and i came to a understanding and stoped changing the whole lesser thing if there been more than one change and it keeps gonig to greator i promise u its not me. i understand the rule and i have stoped the changing like i said but ty for letting me know.

~Guthix5234~

[edit] Amaurice + Home Page

Sorry, didn't realise it wasn't important enough. Lvl 3 skils3 ^{Talk~Holiday Signup~Hiscores‎} 18:18, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Saying Amaurice got 2376 total. Lvl 3 skils3 ^{Talk~Holiday Signup~Hiscores‎} 05:42, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Hehe

My bad. They asked for a link and I was linked to that issue. *confuzzled* Andrew ^talk 15:32, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

The person that proposed Forum:Reopen CC rank requests requested a closure so I thought I'd ask you to close it as you are a neutral party. Thanks in advance. Andrew ^talk 21:25, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Mainpage

Az, Joe and I are here to help out with the main page. We'll be in touch :) -- Doug (talk) 22:21, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi az. Using the image buttons found on ElfAnurin's test page, I made a first draft of a possible new main page design. Take a look here and let me know what you think. Some things to note: keeping non-essential/non-content links to a minimum will improve the wiki's search rank, which is why I removed links such as 'Other languages' (which are already on the sidebar menu), Policies, Terms of Use, etc. Those links are currently on the top-center part of the page, which Google interprets to be the place where the most important links are located. Since the 'Sister Sites' links aren't on the sidebar menu, I moved them to the bottom of the left column, but I'd suggest that they be removed from the main page and added to the sidebar, since they do not link to any of the wiki's content. Anyway, check out my test page and give me any feedback you have, so that we can make progress toward a new main page design that will improve the RuneScape Wiki's google rank while also allowing the community to easily navigate to the information that they want to see. JoePlay (talk) 01:45, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I like this. I really think we should get this underway ASAP. Kudos to Joeplay and Az. Thanks guys.

Bonziiznob ^Talk

05:48, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback, az. I made the changes you requested, so take another look. Since the Sister Sites links are now on both the Monaco and Monobook sidebars, I removed them from the page. NOTE: I re-uploaded the image buttons as 75x75, but as I type this, the image server cache has not updated yet. So instead of appearing as sharp, crisp images, they're appearing blurry due to the browser scaling the old versions to 75x75. Unfortunately, this is normal. Whenever you upload a new version of an existing file, it may take a while for the new version to display. Anyway, I look forward to your updated feedback. JoePlay (talk) 19:39, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

"Could you fix the overlapping icons? I noticed this in Muppet Wiki too, although not as much." - It's an example of how the mainpage could be right? He doesn't have to brainstorm on how to fix that, since I already have thought about that. ElfAnurin . 10:46, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

The overlapping is easily fixed by going back to the 2 row layout I had previously, which I just did, but I kept the smaller (75x75) images, so there should be no problem with that now. The reason 2008 and 2004 are appearing on the keywords list is because they appear as links, not to mention that they are also bold, which gives them even more "importance." So to prevent that without removing the "On this day" section, just remove the link from all the years that appear on the pages that are used in the section. JoePlay (talk) 17:33, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

I'd like to show the potential new design to the rest of the wiki community ASAP, so if you don't have any more crucial issues with it, let me know and we can start a discussion topic in the forum for further feedback. I also plan to explain the reason for the changes that were made, so that the community knows that the changes are for improving the wiki's search engine rank, which will result in more visitors and contributors. JoePlay (talk) 19:15, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Just a heads up... I made a new forum topic here. Could you please update the first sentence in the Sitenotice to direct everyone to the new discussion? I can do it myself, but I think it would be best to keep all the edits made to the Sitenotice done by RuneScape Wiki admins. Also, if you could sticky the topic, that would be cool. Thanks for all the help, az. JoePlay (talk) 22:09, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

DOH! I followed the 'Forums' link from the Community submenu on the sidebar. Thanks for the heads up. I reposted it here. JoePlay (talk) 20:07, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Tylersyx6

Please have a talk with him. I have asked him to read the style guide, and tried to help him but no luck. See his contribs.--joe^{le talk} 17:22, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] RE:Main page

I just chose those colours because I thought they went with the rest of the page and headings better than the colours that were already there. You can change the hot pink, I put that because I was trying to find a shade of pink and hot pink just sprung to mind. Revert my edits if you think they are unsuitable, I don't mind. Congrats on that design anyway, It annihilates the current page. I haven't really been very active on the forum topic, I get a bit to much lag.--joe^{le talk} 17:57, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Main page

Okay. I'm using Firefox as the browser, Monaco skin, and 1024 x 768 screen resolution. On RuneScape:Main Page, the Patch and Development are aligned. Muzzy34 19:04, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Do you know how?

The discussion about Links has recently closed approving the creation of a links section and relationships with other fansites as I am sure you are aware of. However when it comes to modifying the main page, I have no idea where to start. Do you know how and feel comfortable with creating a collapsable links section in the left hand side navigation menu so we could see how it looks? I am using monobook so I may not be looking at what everyone else is, but hopefully that wont change much. Many thanks. TEbuddy 20:16, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Makes sense, 1 for 1 links. Maybe just a static text link taking the user to a links page with the Zybez link? What do you think? TEbuddy 21:12, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

I found RS:LINKS attached to fan site that was essentially just a vandal pit, I am going to clean that up and use it as the links page since fan site is more of an actual article. I still don't know where the link to the links page on the main page should be placed. Any suggestions? TEbuddy 22:02, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

I was going to post this at the forums, but then the process of putting a simple html link on a page would then be delayed by consensus when it doesn't really matter where the link is placed because its performing a simple function. I only came to you because of your experience with wikcode, if you are uninterested or uncomfortable then I don't mind making the changes with trial/error until it comes out correctly. TEbuddy 22:18, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Added a link to RS:LINKS in the site footer on the draft page, what do you think? TEbuddy 22:42, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Azbot

"(AzBot - Updated chart)" - Hello Az, if you are running a bot it is required to be on a seperate account per the wiki's bot policy.-- 00:58, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] RSWP

Ah.Well,okay,I was thinking its about time to do it,seeing as it needs to be ready by tommorow,but I was putting that up today so someone could correct it if there was anything wrong with it. anyway,I've finalised other pages so that they no longer have the tutorial and now read at the bottom that they do not need any new content. I don't know if I ever mentioned how great your work on the wiki is,but,great work! I love the new look for the paper,the old way was horribly cluttered, the new paper is now clean cut,and perfect in appearance. azliq strikes again! ps. check this link:

this is not a rickroll link! thanks az,may teh bunny be with you. --

Mister Craftsman!

Chat • Works • Workshop

15:50, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay,thanks az,we probably have all the content we need now,I just checked the recent changes,and you're like...everywhere....its like...70% yours....anyway,good work. __

Mister Craftsman!

Chat • Works • Workshop

20:57, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Kandarin: The Fourth Empire

Hehehe. I forgot how much litteral and uncensored ownage there was in it. Though, now that I remember, it was meant to intensify the reality of what Castle Wars would really be like. Will this suffice? Chiafriend12 23:50, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

In Soviet Russia, authentic spelling of "comerade" attempts you!

Also, how have you been treating my Obsidian cape I sold you? The thing has feelings too, you know. Chiafriend12 05:12, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Center tag

Hello, I noticed that the <center> tag is used in the code at MediaWiki:common.js that inserts a new image gallery. Per W3C guidelines, tags like <center> have been deprecated in the HTML 4 standard. The tag can be replaced by using <div align="center">, e.g:

mwCustomEditButtons[mwCustomEditButtons.length] = {
         "imageFile": "http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/central/images/1/12/Button_gallery.png",
         "speedTip": "Insert a picture gallery",
         "tagOpen": "\n<div align=\"center\"><gallery>\n",
         "tagClose": "\n</gallery></div>",
         "sampleText": "Image:Example.jpg|Caption1\nImage:Example.jpg|Caption2"};

Thanks.

--Quarenon  _{T | C | S} 15:14, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

I've occassionally done searches for these tags (mainly "center" and "font") and replaced them where I see it. Every once in a while I come across code that was generated by this button so removing the tag there would help some too. --Quarenon  _{T | C | S} 15:33, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

By the way, this tag also appears in MediaWiki:Edittools. --Quarenon  _{T | C | S} 15:39, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

No problem! --Quarenon  _{T | C | S} 15:52, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] RE:Main page

I was comparing the current one at RS:MP to ElfAnurins one at her mainpage thing.--joe^{le talk} 15:22, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] The rollback thingy

Hey Az, would you give [Rollback_Examples] a last fast glance before we give it to the Bcrats as finished? Thanks.--Degenret01 09:34, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I am not positive what you are asking me, sorry. Are you referring to cases of people using rollback to undo added commas to prices? They should use undo there. If your asking some thing else, it flew over my head. That's why I never touch technical discussions, if Azliq7 is on it then I trust things are heading in the right direction.--Degenret01 09:47, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Oooohhhhhhhhhh, nowwwwww I get it. We can talk about it on the talk page for the new policy, but I think your right, we can call it vandalism.--Degenret01 10:35, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Charts

Nice! Rich Farmbrough, 16:56 3 July 2009 (GMT).

[edit] Re:Development Diary: Animating

Yes - fixed.  :-) Leevclarke ^talk 16:56, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] More siteNotice CSS+JS

This fixes(hides mostly) the [Dismiss] being moved from the normal position to the siteNotice table. The only known issue is that under Monobook the site notice is slightly shorter that usual(by only a few pixels on the right) until everything fully loads, so it still looks much better. Feel free to test it yourself. :-) It is known to work in Firefox 3.5, Internet Explorer 7, Opera 10 Beta, Camino 2 Beta, and Safari 4.0 and I haven't tested it in any others than the previously mentioned.

MediaWiki:Common.css:(You shouldn't need any more !important as far as I can tell, in fact it may fail if you add the rest of them because it is difficult to override a !important in JavaScript, although you can see the method I figured out to work around it.)

/* Hide the [dismiss] on the siteNotice until loaded. CSS Part */
div#article div#siteNotice { /* Monaco */
    margin-right: -15px !important;
}
div#content div#siteNotice { /* Monobook */
    margin-right: 0px !important;
}
table#mw-dismissable-notice tbody tr td span {
    display: none;
}
table#wikiSiteNotice tbody tr th sub span {
    display: inline;
}

MediaWiki:Common.js:

//Hide the [dismiss] on the siteNotice until loaded. JS Part
function afterLoad() {
    if(document.getElementById('article')) {
        document.getElementById('article').getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.cssText = 'margin-right: -11px !important;'; //Monaco
    }
    if(document.getElementById('content')) {
        document.getElementById('content').getElementsByTagName('div')[0].style.cssText = 'margin-right: 0px !important;'; //Monobook
    }
    document.getElementById('collapsibleTable0').getElementsByTagName('tbody')[0].getElementsByTagName('tr')[0].getElementsByTagName('th')[0].style.cssText = 'padding-left: 147.5px !important;'; //Monaco and Monobook
}
function showDismiss() {
    if(document.getElementById('collapsibleTable0')) {
        var spans = document.getElementById('collapsibleTable0').getElementsByTagName('tbody')[0].getElementsByTagName('tr')[0].getElementsByTagName('th')[0].getElementsByTagName('span');
        spans[1].style.display = 'inline';
        spans[0].style.display = 'inline';
    }
}
addOnloadHook(showDismiss);
addOnloadHook(afterLoad);

- TehKittyCat^{Talk Wikian-Book} 05:03, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

That is strange as it worked on every setup I've tested with, what is your browser? - TehKittyCat^{Talk Wikian-Book} 00:00, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Your right, besides it is a bit of a risky hack in some ways since not all browsers support everything equally. Your Firefox is a bit outdated they have 3.0.11 now and they just released 3.5 :p - TehKittyCat^{Talk Wikian-Book} 22:05, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] RE:FIMG nomination for "Lesser reborn ranger"

The link is here. C.Chiam^{TalkShoutout!} 11:49, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Dates

I'll go on ButterBot then.... ElfAnurin . 10:49, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

The part with category dates gets added automatically, I don't see it when I edit the text. ElfAnurin . 10:57, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh I did it manually. I'll check later on AWB. =) ElfAnurin . 11:03, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] RE:Redesigning exchange pages

I use Mozilla FireFox 3.0.11, I use the standard wiki skin (I don't know which one that is) and my screen resolution is 1280x800 px.
The page looks like this. It's not necesserily cramped, it just looks bad to me. Oli4burggraa ^Talk 11:21, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Looked it up, I use Monaco. Oli4burggraa ^Talk 11:23, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

So that's why people always tell me that I'm bad at explaining stuff... Anyways, I meant that, to me, it looks too big and stuff. It actually gives me a bit of a headache. Oli4burggraa ^Talk 11:30, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

I think it would look better if part of the white space to the left of the GEMH image (at the side of the text) would be removed. I would also like if the GEMH image was placed farther down from the page title. The lines are really almost touching each other. Oli4burggraa ^Talk 12:23, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Looks good to me. Oli4burggraa ^Talk 13:08, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Hey,I was wondering,(since you seem to know the most about Wikia Format)is it possible to redirectt to another URL outside of wikia space? --

Mister Craftsman!

Chat • Works • Workshop

15:42, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] While Guthix Sleeps - Herblore

Are the requirments (in this case, herblore) for WGS NEEDED (as in, needed later in the quest for more than a few minutes,using alot of boosts instead of just one, mixing more than one potion/etc, or whatever happens) or do I just need them to start? If I need them to start, that'd be AWESOME! But if they are actually used in the quest, that kinda sucks as i'll have to spend 4m on Herblore, but please message back, two quests to go till cape, and you get a cookie if you answer back :D -- Lil Diriz 77 ^{T C E} 02:01, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Haha, thanks for the reply =] I actually used a spicy stew at lvl 63 to start the quest, then I didn't need anymore boosts for the rest of the quest. I also got the quest cape today ^_^ *goes to change userpage* Btw, you can watch me getting it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ghmy4Dq4lrw

Thank you! -- Lil Diriz 77 ^{T C E} 05:43, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Links for years in date articles

It didn't make much sense to me because most of the other dates had links, and I put them there for easier reference on the main page. Killr833 does not play RuneScape anymore 11:28, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Apparently I didn't notice. Killr833 does not play RuneScape anymore 19:49, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry that you dont agree

But dont remove a word because you dont agree with it. The user treatment policy has not been violated and my language was not directed at anyone. Also, [1]TEbuddy 09:24, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Main Page Feedback

I couldn't find where you linked the third design on the forum page so I figured I'd just reply here. If need be you can copy/paste this into the forums in the appropriate section.

Firstly, I like how the headers were given a more unified color scheme. I liked particularly how RuneScape News was cyan, and all the subheadings were a lighter shade of cyan. An issue I still have is that the Notable Pages, Current Date, and Opinion Poll sections all have different colored headings than those around them. Notable Pages should be the same color as RuneScape News, and Opinion Poll and the Current date should be the same shade of green as the other sections in that column. One might argue that such a color scheme looks plain, but my teachings as an interior designer have always said that simple and logical is always better than exciting yet hectic.

I also feel like the Featured Article and Featured Image aren't given the attention they should get when they're on the side. I think the current main page handles them better, putting them centered under the languages. Moving those would allow us to move the poll higher on the page, giving IT more attention as well. Most people wouldn't see it otherwise. Most people come here, search what they want and go there without even looking over the main page.

For that same reason, the navigation buttons should be bigger. I think ElfAnurin's version handled the buttons very well, but they're kinda messed up right now! Dunno what happened. If three rows of buttons like he had is not desirable for one reason or another, so be it, but I feel they definitely do need to be bigger. Also my feedback about the contents of the buttons remains the same:

“The "Skills" button shows skill icons. This is very cartoony and flat when compared with the other images shown, which all show game screenshots. I think if anything this button should show people USING the skills, like someone fishing or mixing a potion. The "Weapons" button is very empty compared with the other images. You should either add more weapons or players using the weapons. The "Guides" button has a bunch of question marks and exclamation points floating around. I feel this is too literal. It should be more subtle without being too obscure. Some more tutors migh be nice. As for the Bestiary button, I don't think it should be just one monster. It'd be very visually pleasing to see a very large monster (like TzTok-Jad), a medium sized monster, and a small monster.”

— Freakin' me!

Forgot to sign!  Psycho Robot Talk Cont  19:58, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Main Page

I think I did comment on RS:MP, but I just wrote a little blurb about the Gaming theme issue on it. I haven't made any specific criticisms about any of the page designs themselves. Maybe you meant to ask Panjy16? --Quarenon  _{T | C | S} 19:44, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Hehe, no problem. --Quarenon  _{T | C | S} 19:48, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Unused files

Any idea why tons of GEMH images are popping up in Unused Files? I noticed you uploaded many, so I didn't want to delete them. 17:47, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

In regards to my projects page, yes, or they had warning that said not to delete them. If they are truly unused now, feel free to delete them. 19:48, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] AzBot

AzBot now has access to administrator tools. If you run into any problems, feel free to contact a bureaucrat. Dr5ag2on1 21:23, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Yum!

I left something yummy for you! I hope you like it as much as I do. Hapi007 ^{Talk! Sign!} . 10:11, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned images

Yes, that was me. It used to exist here until I decided to delete my unnecessary subpages. The images on that page I believe were mostly used in personal skins. Feel free to restore the page if you would like to use it. Christine 10:44, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] RE:

I'm kind of embarrassed to say that I don't even remember making that edit. :s I must've viewed the history and accidentally clicked rollback without even realizing it and then moved on to something else. I apologize for that. Andrew ^talk 15:15, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] RE:Orphan pages/files

Okay, I've left my opinion there, I hope I didn't misunderstand anything. On a side note, I'm glad AzBot has cleared those GEMH files from Special:Unusedimages . C.Chiam^{TalkShoutout!} 15:27, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] RE:Sushi

Bah! He wishes he were as cute as a squid! (srsly squids are cute!) But unfortunately he is the homely Blob Fish, the mucous oozing Kilroy of the underwater kingdom.  Psycho Robot Talk Cont  17:32, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Hurston's orphan pages

If I'm not mistaken, he is on a wiki break, so I don't know if you will get a reply soon. :) Powers38 ^{TalkI'm stalking your talk page, beware.} 04:03, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] GEMH Files

Hi Azliq. Will the GEMH images for some of the "Greenman's ale" exchange pages (e.g. "Greenman's ale(4)") be created anytime soon? They've been appearing in Special:Wantedpages for a few days now. Cheers. C.Chiam^{TalkShoutout!} 08:47, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Made me more confident...

Although I know some of my skills (especially RuneCraftingg, level 3) are rubbish, it's given me a lot of confidence that you've done every quest under/at level 93. As it's my combat too. Erm yeah. Congrats on the achievements, and gl with the rest. :P Byebye

[edit] MP feedback progress

How's it going, az. It's been over 3 weeks since I made that feedback forum thread, and I was wondering if you guys are getting close to making a decision on which main page design to use. I checked the forum thread and saw that there's been plenty of feedback. Personally, I really like the changes you've made to RuneScape:Main Page. The unified header colors for the left and right columns looks good. So let me know how it's going from your point of view. It would be cool if we could get a new main page design up and running soon. Cheers. JoePlay (talk) 20:39, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, that's fine. Thanks for the update. JoePlay (talk) 17:06, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] RE:Strikethrough tag

<del> isn't deprecated? Andrew ^talk 19:45, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Main Page

Thanks. I'll go edit up my post now. -- Lil Diriz 77 ^{T C E} 05:51, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] September's RSWP

Hi, could you create the September issue of the RSWP so we can begin working on it? Also, I wouldn't mind knowing how to create new issues myself. I think I know how to do it, but I'm not sure. Usurper Fuji 14:25, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay, thank you. I'll put the instructions on my sandbox so I can remember them. Usurper Fuji 20:26, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Moving GEWH images

A few items were renamed last update (the gnome robes), so if the exchange pages and their respective GEWH images were moved to the correct names, would Azbot get confused? Just thought I'd check before doing it.  Gaz Lloyd ^Calcs!_Awesome 22:50, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Ah okay. I added the ones I know of (20 of them).  Gaz Lloyd ^Calcs!_Awesome 15:52, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

This will confuse SmackBot, it has a table locally, linking item ID's to exchange titles which can be generated automatically. So in theory if I know some stuff has been moved I just regenerate the table. However the Wikia servers seem to fail to serve about .1% of the pages, so in reality I tend to update it by hand. Therefore big changes are worth letting me know about. Rich Farmbrough, 19:31 7 August 2009 (GMT).

OK thanks. Rich Farmbrough, 18:54 18 August 2009 (GMT).

[edit] Comas

Well at the moment commas will break SB I think, or it may even explicitly remove them. ButI can certainly look at it. Rich Farmbrough, 18:16 7 August 2009 (GMT).

[edit] Ceased item?

Exchange:Amulet of magic(t) does this need to be deleted? Or archived? Rich Farmbrough, 18:48 8 August 2009 (GMT).

[edit] Deleting images

When deleting images that have been replaced by a newer version but still link to people's userpages, what should I do?? should I edit their userpages so it doesn't create a wanted page or replace with the newer image that has replaced it?? Thanks _{Evil Yanks} ^talk 07:46, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Both "File:Combat outfit.png" and "File:Gilded Armour(male).gif". Both have been replaced by newer images and don't link to mainspace, yet still link to userpages. I don't want to delete them currently since I would create wanted pages on their userpages. I am more asking, what would you do in this situation. _{Evil Yanks} ^talk 08:08, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Would you delete the link or replace with the newer image though?? Sorry about how vauge everything has been. _{Evil Yanks} ^talk 08:18, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Signature guide...

Hi Az =) I remember seeing a page a while ago that explained alot about how to customize signatures. It had so much more tips and styles than RS:SIG or H:CYS, yet I can't seem to find it. I've searched Wikipedia and Wikia's pages about signatures, along with countless other wikis (such as Wookieepedia), and I just CAN'T seem to find it.. for example, it had shown different styles of borders, such as curved borders (like yours), and dashed curved borders, and many other things of the sort. Do you have any idea where I would find this page? Please and thanks -- Lil Diriz 77 ^{T C E} 10:11, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

No, sorry, that's not it :\ I don't want you to run around the website looking for it, and it's not TOTALLY necessary that I find it, but it sure would help alot :) Do you think it could have been a user-made guide? -- Lil Diriz 77 ^{T C E} 11:03, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Hmm.. well that certainly helps a bit, but I guess I just wanted to find the page for it's information on borders I was wondering, how could I use a curved/curved&dashed (either would be nice) border in my signature? I'd just like to try it out and see how it looks, but first, I'd need to know the code for it :P Here's my full signature code:

<span style="border:2px solid black; background-color:blue;">[[File:QuestSkillCape.gif|21px]][[user:lil diriz 77|<span style="color:white;">'''''Lil Diriz 77 '''''</span>]]<sup>[[user talk:lil diriz 77|<span style="color:white;">T </span>]] [[Special:contributions/lil diriz 77|<span style="color:white;">C</span>]] [[Special:editcount/lil diriz 77|<span style="color:white;">E</span>]] [[File:Summoning.gif|22px]]</sup></span>

I'd appreciate it much if you could tell me what to add to the border part of my code (for curved/curved&dashed, remember), thanks -- Lil Diriz 77 ^{T C E} 11:29, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

That looks sweet! Thanks Az Much appreciated ^_^ -- Lil Diriz 77 ^{T C E} 12:00, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Oh, one more thing. You said the curved style only works in Firefox (which IS what I'm using, so it works). What exactly does that mean? Can other people who are using a different browser see it to? Or do they just see the signature without the Moz- code? Like, do they see it as if the Moz- code wasn't there? As if it has no curves, like it did before you helped me :P? -- Lil Diriz 77 ^{T C E} 12:05, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] re: swearing

Did not get a chance to reply to you in the thread seeing as I was gone the day the discussion was archived. I just wanted to touch on and reply to what you said. I am just going to continue my reply as if it was right under yours.

According to both wikipedia and the way we commonly handle cases like this, we use discussions as evidence for what is allowed when a policy does not come from a discussion. I would also agree to the general idea that just because we don't have a policy that says something about it doesn't mean that its not allowed/disallowed. Policies don't really mean anything, the policies came from discussion so I am a fan of the idea that discussion (or a new one about an old topic) is the end all be all.

Obviously the comment "Satan worshiping" was sardonic. I have abstained from beginning religious beliefs into that discussion. Here are some of the things asserted about my charachter in that thread because I entertain the idea of swearing:

• Immature
• Wrong (not sure about this one, wrong in general or just wrong about everything)
• Immoral
• Less valuable opinion
• naturally insulting and abrasive
• Ignorant

The list goes on...[2]

Now I wasnt trying to be hurtful, but it gets to a point when individually refuting every point someone makes is like swimming against the current, it wont get you anywhere. So would you not agree that, that long into a discussion that swearing was pretty much branded by the opposers as something of very low moral character? Why then would my words be insulting to simply go along with it?

Unfortunately your comment about the compromise being a ninja attempt by the supporters is unfounded as one of the key people in writing it (PhyscoRobot) happens to agree with your side of the argument [3]. I would like to think that he was displaying the behavior that more people should seek to copy and being just a tad reasonable in the face of overwhelming illogical rambling.

In your argument about people who swear being immoral you seemed to completely ignore that we are not a single culture who have predefined religious or moral grounds from which to build and did not explain why we should naturally adopt a stance that any number of cultures have long attached themselves to for any reason.

Anyway, it saddens me that the discussion was given the same annoying attention that many other long yew grove threads have been given. That the thread has run its course and everyone is just yelling at each other. Personally I think the people opposed to swearing just wanted the compromise to die because it would have violated their idea of what a good environment. I also have yet to see anyone at all prove scientifically, religiously, or socially that swearing should be removed because it actually causes a negative affect among the people who partake and those around them. It also saddens me that in the future people opposed will only use the discussion as fuel for their own twisted ideals. TEbuddy 10:30, September 9, 2009 (UTC)