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Edicts of guhtix

i dont think he violated them, seeing as guthix, or at least juna, approves of him coming back.

The only reason why i guess it doesn't violate the edicts of guthix is because Zaros will probably be reborn from the mahjarrat ritual, from the staff of Armadyl and Stone of Jas. And armadyl will notice how his weapon has been used so he will return to govern gielanor. So in the end it will be Zaros Zamorak Guthix Saradomin Armadyl where Guthix is balance, zamorak and zaros are the evil ones, and saradomin and armadyl. So it will be even where 2 are bad, 1 neutral, 2 good

I don't think the Mahjarrat would summon Zaros at their ritual, since most of them are Zamorakian and fear Zaros. Oil4 ^Talk 06:44, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

Its hard to call any god "evil". Sure Zamorak is the god of chaos but they doesnt necessarily make him evil. Also it all really depends on your prospective. In some ways I find Saradomin to be evil. There isnt enough about Zaros to decide his alliegence. It is likely though he will be on the side of chaos. So to put it better Zaros and Zamorak are chaos, Guthix balance, and Armadyl and Saradomin are order. This maintains the balance but gets rid of the good and evil since they technically dont exist just depends what side you are on.

Ahh guys what about bandos?!?! where does he fit...he's "The Big High War God" so he's at least chaos or destructive. thats not very balanced unless you put seren as order. If you do that your opening up all the other minor gods then.

Well, Zaros disappeared BEFORE Guthix woke up... So he wasn't actually around to sign the Edicts...

He could directly intervene without angering Guthix.

Bandos is War, he doesn't care who's side he is on, he just loves war. Therefore Bandos can be classified as Indifferent. Seren is not Order, Seren is the Elf Goddess of Crystal and is Neutral (I think of her as Purity, being a goddess of crystal and crystal filters light. Filtering makes thing purer, so Purity makes sense to me). Armadyl is Justice/Law, Zaros is Unknown, you can't say whether he's bad or good, but I like to think he's the God of Corruption. So, here is how I view them:

Saradomin: Order

Guthix: Balance

Zamorak: Chaos

Bandos: War

Armadyl: Justice

Zaros: Corruption

Seren: Purity

Slate Orchid 02:11, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think zaros is the god of chaos or corruption since there is no evidence at all to support this theory and because zaros' followers such as azzanadra are not chaos, in fact azzanadra and other zarosian mahjarrat such as jhallan are very kind and polite to the player even when the player meets them for the first time.

What about the God of Meritocracy? His best fighters (dragon riders, mahjarrat, demons, etc) were his closest (and in the end that ended him>zamorak became god). . . . _Yours, Enquidou ^Talk . . 02:23, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

All Alignments In One?

Zaros is most likely to be every alignment in one which means he could be everything just like Guthix. If Zaros is evil then Armadyl would be his Arch-Rival. EliteArmourer 06:33, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

What do you mean? Evil is not the same as injustice (Armadyl is the god of justice). Guthix is just balance, that's also not all in one. Could u explain pls? . . . _Yours, Enquidou ^Talk . . 01:40, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

I believe that Zaros is a Neutral god, respectively. But Saradomin and Zamorak seem to accept that they are good, and evil (personally, I think both are evil) {C} This always led me to confusion.

Lord Nexius (talk) 08:05, February 14, 2013 (UTC)

Possible return?

now I'm just making a theory here but i think zaros might come back in some way in the future. after all zammy seemed pretty freaked out at his name in [http://www.runescape.com/kbase/viewarticle.ws?article_id=414 zammy god letter] and from what i can gather zaros isn't definitely dead, just weakened and banished. and with that stone of jas out there he could restore himself. and once he is back, zammy is going to be on the look to kill him, this time for sure. which would make for one great quest. now this is going far off the deep speculation end but When Zaros Returns sounds like a good name for a follow up to While Guthix Sleeps --75.192.121.3 14:23, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Zaros is returning, proof. The return of Zaros has been hinted twice in the second Q & A on March 5: Quoted from the second Q & A - All rights go to Jagex

• Q) Fitzcairn - Zaros's return has been hinted at for a long time now. Will it be achieved this year?

• A) Mod Mark - Zaros likes to remain mysterious about such things, and isn’t likely to let even us know when he intends to return. However, a select team of developers led by Paul is trying to find out :)

- {C}And

• Q) Darth Stefan - Will there be a second God Wars?

• A) Mod Mark - We have strong ideas for another high level dungeon, but it’s not likely to be another God Wars...ah, hang on...are you asking me if there will be another actual war of the gods? I’d say that was very likely, especially with the return of Z being talked about so much and Guthix still fast asleep. They do like to take matters into their own hands.

-

• Other: And in one of the Anagrams of From Postage from the Hedge by the Chaos Element; when the anagram is solved it is Zaros will be reborn

If you look at issue 15's of the GOD Letter it shows Zaros grave and Zamorak's reaction to the mentioning of Zaros

Zaros will return, that's an actual fact. I'm assuming that Lucien either wants to succeed Zamorak and have Zaros banished, or Succeed Zamorak and help Zaros return to power. Idunnolol. 87.80.83.70

When the lord zaros returns all those who followed zamorak shall be smote, the kingdoms of sara shall be smote and the zamorakian kingdom of kandrian will be crushed.--Jakezing2 23:26, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Same guy who started the topic here. Cool info i dug up, the barrows brothers may be enlisted in Zaros' army. in The Fall of Six it says "You shall stand ever vigilant for His return" since the only god who has left, and there for can return, is Zaros. The next question this raises is who is the stranger? We know he has visited the east, because that is where karil's bolt racks come from. This is really jumping off the deep end but Lucien has been around long enough and may support Zaros. Also I move that Lucien has a page made of evidence about his loyalty --70.198.35.192 23:10, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

I highly doubt zammy will be able to kill Zaros. I believe Guthix will reawaken and fight Zaros since Zaros would be violating the Edicts of Guthix. I also believe the "guess who's back" message could be a reference to santa clause as well, it was posted in December after allpyrolord 20:24, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

But Zaros isn't affected by the Edicts of Guthix, so how can he break them?Kenneth C. L. 04:23, February 19, 2010

If Zaros Is going to return he will need a body (Since Zamorak killed Zaros but Zaros' soul was banished to another plane that, in the Temple at Senntisten quest is shown to be very far away from Gielinor) and even though the edicts of Guthix will not affect him, the group of Guthixians who swore to awaken Guthix if the edicts were ever violated would still probably awaken Guthix. If they do, Gielinor will be destroyed; so Zaros' first objective (if he manages to find a body to inhabit) would be to kill the group of Guthixians so that Guthix will never awaken for thousands of years. He will then probably start another god war since Saradomin and Zamorak and many other gods won't let him take over even though they're scared to death by Zaros. Also Guthix won't fight Zaros he'll just destroy Gielinor if he finds out any god entered RuneScape. Lord Nexius 2nd February 2013, Strength Through Power

The Edicts of Guthix isn't something like law of physics, it's like a legal law: you can break the law, there just can be consequences - that's why the other gods don't break the Edicts - I refer you to the lore live stream for that ;) I also think that you have a too metaphysical few of Zaros' banishment. I mean, why can't he just be banished with body - I don't think it was said anywhere that only his sole got banished? . . . _Yours, Enquidou ^Talk . . 09:54, February 13, 2013 (UTC)

Updated with new information->zaros trivia

i didnt know if the trivia fact about the zaros grave being near the goblin village was the same as the large grave i found next to the mind altar so i put it separate, but if it is can someone edit it or something, i included the examined text because it seemed like a hint that there is something big hidden underneath that large grave =P

Actually most gravestones do NOT depict the Zaros symbol. Most gravestones portray a Celtic Cross ( a circle with a + sign in it. The Zaros symbol has an X through a circle NOT a +.

In fact, the only place in the game where there ARE Zarosian gravestone is in the Yanille Agility Dungeon. They did not used to be there but they have been updated to the Zarosian symbol. Plus I went by and checked the grave by the mind altar; it is in fact a Celtic cross, rather than the Ancient symbol that Zaros uses. - Lord Drakan

ancient statuette

since it is no longer zaros statuette, it is no longer a zarosian item. its now just a old item.

But Zaros made ancient magicks, so I belive that most ancient things (espicially if they used to be associated with him) can be associated with Zaros. Kenneth C. L. 04:27, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

I never knew Created created the ancient magicks, Where does it say that? Draconis E ^Talk 00:31, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

Uzer

In the article it says that the city of Uzer worshipped Zaros when it still existed. I never read any proof of that, and I'm pretty sure Uzer was a Saradominist city. Maybe people link the Mahjarrat to Zaros, but the Mahjarrat were in the service of Icthlarin during their time in the desert. Hippodo 3113 16:12, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Well, both Saradomin and Zamorak attacked the desert cities, and they only had one enemy in common: Zaros. Also, two of the Mahjarrat that are still loyal to him, Akthanakos and Azzanadra (and possibly Wahisietel if he turns out to be Ali the Wise) "live" in the desert. Oil4 ^Talk 16:14, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Saradomin never attacked Uzer right? And so what if Zarosian Mahjarrat live in the desert, doesn't mean Uzer is Zarosian. Hippodo 3113 16:19, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Thammaron destroyed Uzer. After Thammaron was killed, Azzanadra wiped out what was left of his army. Oil4 ^Talk 22:13, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

First god?

Is Zaros the first god we actually see ingame? I've heard bandos, but never saw him. Am I right? 80.101.62.155 13:12, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

Nope, we've seen Guthix in Meeting History I think. 84.31.4.169 18:45, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

actually, the elder gods were first, followed by Guthix and the stone of Jas, then all the other ones excluding zamorak which is the last one.XXstaticXX 23:31, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

XXstaticXX is spot on. http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu33/Psycho_Robot/Sigs%20and%20Avatars/kitty.pngPsycho Robot talk 23:49, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

Not right. The question was, is Zaros the first one which we see in-game. First one was Guthix, then Zaros, and we haven't seen the rest yet. Oil4 ^Talk 06:43, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

Still not right. We also saw Icthlarin and Amascut in Icthlarin's Little Helper. They are both gods. User:Lil diriz 77/Signatures 22:09, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

So, in order of the quest releases, we saw:

• Icthlarin (Icthlarin's Little Helper)
• Amascut (Icthlarin's Little Helper)
• Guthix (Meeting History)
• Bandos (The Chosen Commander)^{If you'd like to count "hearing" a god and seeing it's power forced into a glass-like avatar as "seeing" a god, then Bandos comes fourth.}
• Zaros (The Temple at Senntisten)
• Saradomin (Ritual of the Mahjarrat) ( . . . _Yours, Enquidou ^Talk . . 02:19, September 19, 2011 (UTC))

Again, Bandos should only be counted depending on what subject you're talking about. There's a difference between "see" and "interact", we don't directly see Bandos.

User:Lil diriz 77/Signatures 22:16, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

But if the wanderer during Icthlarin's little Helper is Amascut (correct me if I'm wrong) then technically we see her before Icthlarin, though we don't know it's her, so she comes first, not second.Kenneth C. L. 04:32, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

An idea I dnno where to put

Zemouregal said on his notes about Akthanakos that though Zaros freed tem from the desert gods, he wont understand the path of chaos. That means Zaros might not be a good guy but hes not the bad guy. Someone put this up onto the page? - KingBlackChicken

Interestingly, this could show more info on his allignment. It seems that, though he is "Evil", he is on the path of order rather than chaos. --User:Derekwinston; The 3mporer, Hail Zamorak. 07:44, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

We don't even know whether he's evil or not. Hippodo 3113 12:16, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

Zaros' Personality

I believe that the latest Mahjarrat quest stated something about Zaros' actual personality, that he is not a god of pure evilness, but a god of power, he is power greedy and thrives to dominate, in a non-evil way, and lives with the most extreme style, and immediately jealous of those who seem better than him, and will do to lengths to overthrow and dominate and become the best. DragonGnexus 17:12, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

This could be said for many of the Gods though, Saradomin, Zamorak and the Mahjarrat were jealous and envious of Zaros' power, therefore they tried to overthrow him and take his Kingdom and Power for themselves and they all want 'control' of Runescape and to be the best.

That wasn't jealousy though it was fear. pyrolord 20:52, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

No, it wasn't fear, Zaros wasn't afraid of the other gods as he was the most powerful. He could have been paranoid that they'd band together and knock him off his perch, which in the end became true.

Now it seems Zaros wants to come back into Gielinor to reclaim that power and punish Zamorak for his betrayal. 86.20.236.193 18:13, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

If you actually did the new quests, you would know that guthix is awaiting zaros return for then the pretender god zammy will be gone and balance will be closerXXstaticXX 21:55, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

Guthix doesn't know Zaros exists. He was sleeping during his existence. DragonGnexus 10:10, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

Guthix does know that zaros existed, since his followers, specifically Juna who is stuck in a cave know of zaros and approve his arrival. When you do the quests, you will find out XXstaticXX 21:59, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

Just because his followers know doesn't mean he knows. He WAS and still IS asleep.pyrolord 20:42, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

Juna and other guthix followers state that guthix knows of ZAROS, just very little, and guthix is AWAITING HIS RETURN! XXstaticXX 23:04, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

You really should read this http://www.runescape.com/c=OGk7HvDU4H0/kbase/guid/letters19

press ctrl+f and search zaros you will find out you are wrong. Guthix said "Thy first question I cannot answer, for I know not of the being thou speak of. Certain events that occurred during my slumber are unknown to me, for my mind was occupied elsewhere in my slumber, and I had but tangential influence and knowledge of the events of this land. The name seems almost familiar, and I hath a feeling that there are reasons why I should know it, but alas, truthfully I do not." pyrolord 22:59, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry Pyrolord, but in all honesty XXstaticXX is right. The god letters we written forevvveeerrrr ago before WGS and any of that. Guthix didn't know much of Zaros but he has been informed and it would bring the most balance according to Juna who is the closest NPC to Guthix that we've met.

Hmmm... (pronunciation)

I've noticed that the pronounciation of Zaros' name has changed to a likely incorrect pronounciation. Could someone provide proof of the pronounciation? If not then I propose it be changed back to the old one. I have a feeling it is actually pronounced similar to how you say the word "Zeros" except with an "A" replacing the "E", while the "O" is pronounced as "ō".

Ex. zR-Ohs or ZAR-Ohs

I always pronounced it as Zah-ross.

Also, should'nt the Ancient Statuette be included in the list of related items? It was called the Zaros Statuette when first released, and only because questers complained was it's name changed so as not to reveal Zaros' name before players completed the Digsite quest. It really should be included seeing as all of the other high level PvP drops are God-related items. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lord Drakan (talk).

Afaik, the pronunciation isn't mentioned anywhere, so it should probably be removed. About the ancient statuette, go ahead and put it back, but mention that it used to be called the zaros statuette. VMT^rwojy 02:10, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

I always wondered how Zaros' name is really pronounced, I always pronounced it as  "Zar-ohss". Should the Pronunciation be put on the article?   Draconis E ^Talk 00:29, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

I think the official pronounciation should be put on the article, yes. I always told myself it was "Za-ross", but I was also wrong about "Ar-doyn", and "Ar-muh-dill". So if we know the official pronounciation, yes pls. . . . _Yours, Enquidou ^Talk . . 08:59, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

I was listening to one of the Lore-Livestreams and I heard Mod Osborne pronounce it as "Za-ross" (^Like you did), I guess if a Jagex Moderator pronounces it that way then does that mean it's the right way to pronounce it? If Yes then I'll put it up on the Article. Draconis E ^Talk 10:15, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

Maybe, secretly, I am Mod Osborne. But he also once said that Chealdar (Chell-dar) was a Guardian of Guthix, while she isn't (which he later admitted). If there is an 'official' pronunciation guide, I think it's best to keep to that, he might just have made a pronunciation error. (Althought I do feel proud that he, at least subconcously, agreed with me :P) . . . _Yours, Enquidou ^Talk . . 13:37, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

ancient statuette

the ancient statuette IS NOT A ZAROS ITEM. there is absolutely no evidence what so ever to suggest it is. what it used to be called does not matter aether- if a saradomin sword was renamed a zamorak sword, would u still call it a saradomin item?

But the word ancient is usually afiliated with Zaros. Ex. Ancient Staff. http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv341/Rwojy/scoot4.pngscooties 03:33, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

ancient diary, ancient bones...those arnt zarosian, but they are ancient. {C}The ancient statuette was originally called "Zaros Statuette" so there is proof that is it indeed of zarosian origin. {C}Mewlink2 23:30, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

but it isnt called that anymore, thus that is 195% irrevelant. 3rd age farcaster

195% is a mathematical improbability in the context you're using it, and it can be affiliated with Zaros because, as said before, it used to be called, "Zaros statuette" (Fyi, if you don't know what some of the words I'm using, check a dictionary) : ) Kenneth C. L. 04:39, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

I beg to differ. All ancient stuff has Zarosian origins. I would say it's 100% relevant. --Halo^Talk 04:34, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

the extra 95% was just to make it more dramatic. if an item was called saradomin cape, but then got renamed zamorak cape, would it still be called a saradomin item? 3rd age farcaster 17:34, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

That is an inadequate example. A more accurate example would be if it were called an ancient item, and then it became a modern item. Those are two exact opposite terms. Zaros is from ancient times, the two are similar if not one and the same. --Halo^Talk 17:46, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Can we stop adding that it used to be called Zaros Statuette? If people want to know more about the Ancient Statuette, they will click on the link provided on the page.

It used to be called the Zaros Statuette. I complained on the RuneScape forums that it defied years of mystery to just use his name so carelessly, and received a gold post stating he agreed fully and he'd see to it being changed. It was changed by the next day. Whether or not there's any evidence in game to support it, from the perspective of someone looking at a computer screen, it's Zarosian. It's suppose to be implied. I suggested "Ancient Statuette", but whether or not it would have been called that even if I'd suggested something else is besides the point... 46.33.4.136 17:26, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Jagex mean to apply that it is zarosian by use of the word ancient. just use some common sense please. its what this wiki is missing in places and this is one of them KDanger ^Talk 12:36, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

zaros plans to betray us?

When you ask Azzanadra about Zaros' plan, and ask if Zaros wants your help, he basically avoids the question, saying something along the lines of 'you will be useful'. Perhaps Zaros plans to use then lose us? 58.161.208.186 05:24, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

all speculation. 3rd age farcaster 17:22, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

I think that is somewhat unlikely...he gave us ancient magicks and curses...I think Zaros will reward us...or perhaps he just will use us as cannon fodder (not wanting us to die, but necessary for him to return), but we will surprisingly live through it. -- Haloolah123 21:38, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

The reason he doesn't tell you about Zaros' plan is because Zaros doesn't want anyone else to know about it. He tells Azzanadra to come closer so he can tell him a plan that NO ONE ELSE may know of. I think when Zaros said "NO ONE ELSE" he meant the player can't know of it either. Zaros also doesn't know you and won't trust you because he barely knows you. If I were Zaros I wouldn't trust anyone except the most Loyal Servant I have A.K.A   Azzanadra!

Elves may have been followers of Zaros

As seen on the tomb of the ancient elven queen, Glarial, there is a symbol of Zaros. Also, whoever keeps deleting this fact from the main article needs to stop, it is factually true, and you can see for yourself on her page, it is in fact the symbol of Zaros. It's the third time I put it up there.

Yes I agree, but I also keep thinking why today's elves show no allegiance to Zaros. My theory is that the elves who followed Zaros went into hiding after Zaros was Banished, the reason being Fear of being wiped out by Zamorak or The other Gods. They may have thought Zaros was Dead and Abandoned the Zarosian Religion. Another Theory I have come up with is that when Zaros Disappeared they Simply Switched Religions and instead followed Seren and, 2000 or 3000 years later, they had simply completely forgotten about their race's history with Zaros. The last theory is that they were wiped out. These are only theories that I have come up with and should not be taken Too seriously though if Elves (Or at Least a Portion of Them) once followed Zaros then These Theories could very likely at least have a grain of truth in them. Draconis E ^Talk 02:02, April 18, 2013 (UTC)

Zarosian Tombs

Say, could someone add the pictures of the Zarosian tombs found in Glarial's Tomb, The Shade Catacombs, and the Yanille Agility Dungeon to the main article about Zaros? There are already pictures of them on those pages (except for the Yanile Dungeon one), and it would probably be a good addition, I just don't know how to do it myself is all.--Lord Drakan 00:03, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

By the way, someone edited the article to add that there are Zarosian graves in the Varrock crypt visited in the Romeo and Juliet Quest. I checked out a picture on RuneHQ (because the pic here on the wiki was inadequate) and it turns out it is true. Just though I should let you know in case it comes up.--Lord Drakan 03:26, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

1st of all I don't think zaros was the 1st god and the most powerful god I think it is guthix because he had some elder god influece and shaped gielinor secondly I think zaros took alot of territories (almost captured the whole land of gielinor) is because he used some of the mahjarrat war stratagies.Now the mystery of zaros is still a mystery lol XD

The thing about Zarosian graves in the Varrock crypt is probably because Edgeville was a huge Zarosian city on one side of Varrock, and then Senntisten was on the other. It makes sense that it would have a faint Zarosian taint to it. Death will follow you...^{but you can survive} 03:25, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Zarosian Comparison to Religions

Seems like it should belong under trivia, except it has alot of info under it. Maybe shorten it up then move to trivia? Ultigamer7 ^Talk 00:30, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Eh, I dunno. I think it is fine where it is. Shortening it to fit in the trivia section would probably mean losing details in the process. Someone obviously did a bit of research and would like to share it, so why should we cut bits and pieces from it just to put it in the trivia section? 173.168.98.54 16:37, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

I think we should get rid of it, why do Runescape Players care about the similarities between a fake religion and real religions? Runescape is just a game, and Zaros is just another part of that game Tako Manz ^{Sign me!} 23:05, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Since when do we only have information runescape players care about? Thats what makes wiki different from all other fansites. What does it matter if runescape is a game? Does that mean its impossible for there to be similarities? I don't follow your logic. Furthermore, this entire article is useless to runescape players- it doesn't tell how to earn more money, kill stuff faster, etc. 3rd age farcaster 23:07, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yet it has information at actually applies. Not everyone who reads the wiki cares to read about how it could be related. User:TyA/sig 23:14, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I don't want to read about how to kill bandos boss. Thus, not everyone who reads the wiki wants to read about how to kill this boss. Thus, by your logic, we should remove it. 3rd age farcaster 23:18, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Or by my logic, it actually applies to the game. User:TyA/sig 23:27, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

There is also ZERO evidince for the ancient statuette being zarosian. Its not in his colors, does not have his symbole, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING suggests it had anything remotely to do with him. 3rd age farcaster 23:11, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

And you already agreed that the line there was good enough about the statutte, so don't bring that up again, please. TYAAG^rwojy 23:16, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I didn't bring it up, ok? 3rd age farcaster 23:18, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

User_talk:3rd_age_farcaster/Archive_1#Re:ancient_statuette We already agreed that the line is good as it is. VFDF^rwojy 23:20, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yes! I am defending the line! Why are you attacking me?! I AM DEFENDING OUR AGREEMENT FOR GOD SAKE! They are trying to remove it. 3rd age farcaster 23:22, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Is the ancient book related to Zaros? User:TyA/sig 23:14, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Nope. 3rd age farcaster 23:18, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

That's a different ancient book, but how about the Ancient vambraces, Ancient cloak, and Ancient crozier? User:TyA/sig 23:22, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Whats it matter? Ancient does not = Zarosian. We already agree on that. The reason those are zarosian is because they have his colors, icon, etc. This doesn't 3rd age farcaster 23:27, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Then why did you put this.....? User:TyA/sig 23:32, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

That was something me and another user agreed on. I am defending that agreement. I am not willing to have Ancient Statuette listed as a Zaros item without some sort of evidince, and that is the best we get. Aether remove the Ancient Statuette, or leave that notice there. 3rd age farcaster 23:36, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Why are you posting about items under this section? Also, real life religions have nothing to do with Runescape, and as such, they don't belong on the Runescape Wiki. Tako Manz ^{Sign me!} 23:15, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Then only 90% of trivia should be removed. 3rd age farcaster 23:19, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Then shorten it, and add it under trivia. Tako Manz ^{Sign me!} 23:20, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I'll try after this dispute is resolved. 3rd age farcaster 23:21, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

This should be removed, as far as I'm concerned, the Wiki is about RuneScape related information, talking and comparing about other religions is shaky ground, also no1 would like to read about something not related to Zaros or infact, a wall of taxt talking about religion. Keep the Trivia since it only says "its similar to" no, "blah blah blah the same good, same rituals, blah blah blah religion" or a waste of space about trivial information. ScionCrush 23:22, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Theres no limit on space. 3rd age farcaster 23:23, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Scion. Tako Manz ^{Sign me!} 23:24, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Third Age. I don't only read this forum and others for information I enjoy reading the lores and what other people think I say leave it as it has no Negative effects and people may enjoy thinking about that. Zaros will rise. Power to the Great Lord! 15:22, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't need it's own section, though. We can shorten it and add it to Trivia. Nobody likes long Trivia. I don't see any comparisons to Christianity on the Saradomin page, and I never want to see a section about it. It has nothing to do with Zaros himself, or Runescape, so it belongs in Trivia. Tako Manz ^{Sign me!} 22:43, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

You can try putting it there. 3rd age farcaster 22:59, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Done, I didn't add all of what was there, I didn't want to make it too long, but you can add the rest if you like. Tako Manz ^{Sign me!} 23:59, September 23, 2010 (UTC)