Talk:Zaros
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"It is theorised that the goblins worshipped him as the goblin god." Theorised by who? JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot 06:42, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
- Removed the sentence. Chaoticar 03:22, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Please do not remove my contributions. I really look up this stuff. 68.100.88.213
- So where does it come from? JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot 22:33, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- Well it's either him or Zamorak, hence me putting the "It is theorised that the goblins worshipped him as 'the goblin god'.". Also I wrote that, and I believe that I had the right to remove it, as an editor. Chaoticar 07:01, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
- So where does it come from? JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot 22:33, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
The evidence is ingame. In a goblin book (from the Cave Goblins), it details a 'Big High War God' (BHWG) who sought aid from various races.
No god is referred to by name, instead they use things like 'God of Shiny Light'. Some think that the BHWG is Zamorak, but in the text it also mentions a 'Fire God' (or similar) that sound much more like Zamorak. So, by process of elimination, BHWG is Zaros or some previously unsuspected, violent deity.
Pfft. I also removed some fancrap in the "Betrayal" section ('He tried to choke Zamorak', completely unfounded, I HAVE the original battle convo in picture form).
WIth the release of the god dungeon we now know that goblins do not follow zaros, they follow bandos. --
Mrs' skilly 13:36, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Kang227 14:50, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- Well they follow Bandos now, but there's no reason that suggest that they've always followed Bandos. And besides, we already know that Bandos didn't create the goblins (Land of the Goblins Quest), he merely found them in Yu'biusk then took them to Runescape as war minions. Obviously the goblins were created by someone, or something else, which could very well be Zaros. I'll research a bit more on this topic.
Shouldn't this mention Robert the Strong in the Reincarnation? section? I mean, if Bob IS the reincarnation of Zaros then Rob must've been as well.
A.C.
12:59, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
I believe that Zaros is a Neutral god, respectively. But Saradomin and Zamorak seem to accept that they are good, and evil (personally, I think both are evil) This always led me to confusion.
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[edit] New Zaros talk
In a recent KB article, the one about Bounty Hunter;
In the centre of the Wilderness, bounded on all sides by the desolation of the god wars, crouches a volcano. Not quite dormant, the massive crater that bears witness to the violence of its birth is home to Mandrith, Guardian of the Crater. In the earliest days of man's existence on RuneScape, this volcano was the site of the first murder, and for this reason an unnamed god cracked and split the earth to give the volcano life.
- Un-named god = Zaros 67.159.50.90 14:05, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Removing the Trivia that says "Zaros one of the few gods without a section in the God wars area." false for the following reasons: since god wars area only has 4 gods out of 24 known gods, as 20 out of 24 gods aren't in it, also as the god wars started after Zammorak became a god he wouldn't have even been in the god wars anyway. Chaos knight 22:54, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Source guide
Dear Reldo
This is actually my second response to your letter. The first one I realised was unsatisfying to your request. Firstly, it was too long, secondly, it dealt with many more conflicts than the Mahjarrat, and I realised that it was the Mahjarrat’s history and what has happened to them that you were interested in knowing.
And so, without further delay, here’s my version, based around historical facts, stories and events that I have laid my eyes and ears upon.
The Mahjarrat is a race of strong warriors, who originally came from another world, known to us only as Freneskae. This world was a world of constant warfare, which is why the Mahjarrat have come to become as strong as they are. The Mahjarrat are not by any means immortal, but their strength is far superior to most of the beings in RuneScape, and their lifespan far longer than humans. When the Mahjarrat first came to this world, they served under the desert god Icthlarin, the god of the dead. Then one day, during the second age, another god approached them and asked them to serve under his rule, this god was the dread lord Zaros, a name which has almost been forgotten by the world, as the Saradominists have done everything in their power to delete all traces of his existence throughout the ages. The Mahjarrat Azzanadra said of Zaros that this god understood the Mahjarrat and their ways much better than Icthlarin, and that Icthlarin had never controlled the Mahjarrat, and in all honesty, I don’t think any god could possibly control the Mahjarrat against their will. The Mahjarrat eventually abandoned Icthlarin and joined forces with Zaros, and with them in his army he quickly became the ruler of large parts of the land.
It was when Zaros had become the strongest of Gods that Zamorak, merely a mortal Mahjarrat at the time and the general of Zaros’s forces, had grown power hungry. Zamorak wished to take the power for himself, and so, with the help of some fellow Mahjarrat and the Vampyre Lord Drakan, he managed to get his hands on the Staff of Armadyl, a very powerful weapon.
Zamorak then encountered Zaros, wielding the Godstaff of Armadyl, but even though Zamorak had the help of a god's weapon, he was still not able to defeat Zaros. It was then that Zaros tripped and fell onto the Godstaff of Armadyl, which impaled him. A bright light was seen, and both began to fade out of existence. The battle was over and they were both gone, and as a result the Zarosian empire quickly fell to Saradomin’s forces without a god to defend it.
But then one day Zamorak reappeared, reborn and now immortal. The Staff of Armadyl had transferred some of Zaros’ godly powers to Zamorak, and he was now a god himself. The following thing that happened was the God Wars between the god Saradomin, Zamorak, Bandos and Armadyl.
While Zamorak and Zaros were gone, the Zamorakian and the Zarosian Mahjarrat fought, many were killed and more were trapped. Below I will explain about each individual Mahjarrat I have come to know of, who they are aligned to, and what has happened to them.
Let’s start with the Zamorakian Mahjarrat.
Hazeel: Hazeel is one of the physically strong Mahjarrats, he was a good friend of Zamorak and helped him betray Zaros. Hazeel eventually gained control of Ardougne, but was later overthrown by a mob and killed. Hazeel was later resurrected and has headed north to meet with the other Mahjarrat.
Lucien: Lucien is a physically weak Mahjarrat, he helped betay Zaros by casting a spell on the Godstaff of Armadyl so that Zaros could not feel its presence. Lucien recently tried to get his hands on the Godstaff of Armadyl once again, but I prevented him from doing so. Lucien is expected to be heading north to meet with the other Mahjarrat.
Enakhra: Enakhra managed to trap the Zarosian Mahjarrat Akthanakos in a temple which she built as a dedication to her loyalty to Zamorak. I managed to free Akthanakos and they have both headed north to fight.
Zemouregal: Zemouregal is known from the Legend of Arrav, he’s known to be able to infiltrate one's dreams and to be able to summon and control the undead. I speculate that Zemouregal is going to perform an attack on Varrock soon, and I fear that it will be with an undead Arrav by his side.
Now, onto the Zarosian Mahjarrat.
Azzanadra: Azzanadra is probably Zaros’ most loyal servant, and most likely also his strongest. Azzanadra is as close as a mortal can get to immortality, which is why he was trapped in a Pyramid, rather than killed. I managed to free Azzanadra from his prison during my travels, and in exchange he granted me the ability to use the Ancient Magicks of the Mahjarrat. I expect that Azzanadra will be heading north to fight the Zamorakian Mahjarrat.
Akthanakos: Akthanakos was, as I mentioned earlier, trapped by Enakhra. After I freed him he went to battle with Enakhra, I expect that they have probably headed north.
Sliske: Sliske is the last of the known Mahjarrat loyal to Zaros. He is known from the tale The Fall of the Six, and is the one who granted the Barrows Brothers their powers to fight Zamorak’s evil hordes. I will continue to try to uncover more information about Sliske, but as of now this is all I know.
Other possible Mahjarrat is the Oracle. She looks like Hazeel, and she’s definitely been in this world for a long time, but I can’t seem to figure out where her allegiance is and how she’s connected to the others.
I was once told by a wise gnome, who had the ability to see into the future, that amongst the Mahjarrat will be someone else, someone who does not belong there, someone who will fight them. I do not know who this person is, but I have a bad feeling that I’m going to be involved further in this matter.
I heard somewhere that there were about 100 Mahjarrats when they first came to RuneScape; by now, though, some must’ve died from age, others in battle. I don’t think we have yet uncovered all of the remaining Mahjarrat, but I don’t think there are much more than 10 of them left. It has been many ages and they have been at war for most of them.
I hope any of this have helped on your understanding of the Mahjarrat.
So, until the dark times must be fought Baralai22, Adventurer
[edit] Starting to see a pattern of some sort here.......
Have you ever noticed that for the non-wildernessteleport spells in the ancient magicks spellbook, there is always a trapdoor or some sort of underground entrance nearby? to clarify, the edgeville teleport will take you to edgeville dungeon, nearby an entrance/exit, the dig site teleport is closeby to where you can go underground using a winch, the ice mountain teleport is close by to the dwarven mine, and the canfis teleport is nearby to the basement in the tavern.
Whereas for the wilderness teleport, there is NO sort of trapdoor/underground accessway that is nearby.
Perhaps at one point in time, the non-wilderness cities were linked by tunnels, which allowed the transportation and distributation of goods/people/information, exc.? Its just a theorm, but it may be worth investigating.
I also believe that, if the non-wilderness cities had tunnels nearby, then this must state that the cities in the wilderness were merely just fortresses.--Pkthis 00:40, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Zaros: A marvelous ranger?
I'd sure like some kinda citation for this line. Any volunteers? Sir Revan125 21:53, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Zaros:Alignment
- i believe i've stumbled upon zaros's alignment. FEAR or The Darkness. if you study upon his names, you can figure out that, fear leaves a empty feeling inside of you, and hopelessness also leaves a empty and dark feeling inside of you. i also believe he could be the god of Negativity. the example of the negativity theory is that the ancient staff takes prayer from you, and he seems to be feared by the positive gods. i also believe he could be fear god because he is sometimes refered to as the dread lord.
floppyc5 
01:07, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
- That's a good theory, but only a theory, Zaros's views on Good and Evil / Right and Wrong / Justice and Chaos (and so on) are still mainly unknown. He his referred to as Unknown Power, Empty Lord, ect... it's still a mystery to many of us. We can only hope that Zaros's past, present and future will be revealed soon.
"Long live Magicks; Long live Zaros!
Xana Attack 
[edit] Possible return?
now I'm just making a theory here but i think zaros might come back in some way in the future. after all zammy seemed pretty freaked out at his name in zammy god letter and from what i can gather zaros isn't definitely dead, just weakened and banished. and with that stone of jas out there he could restore himself. and once he is back, zammy is going to be on the look to kill him, this time for sure. which would make for one great quest. now this is going far off the deep speculation end but When Zaros Returns sounds like a good name for a follow up to While Guthix Sleeps --75.192.121.3 14:23, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Zaros is returning, proof. The return of Zaros has been hinted twice in the second Q & A on March 5: Quoted from the second Q & A - All rights go to Jagex
- Q) Fitzcairn - Zaros's return has been hinted at for a long time now. Will it be achieved this year?
- A) Mod Mark - Zaros likes to remain mysterious about such things, and isn’t likely to let even us know when he intends to return. However, a select team of developers led by Paul is trying to find out :)
- And
- Q) Darth Stefan - Will there be a second God Wars?
- A) Mod Mark - We have strong ideas for another high level dungeon, but it’s not likely to be another God Wars...ah, hang on...are you asking me if there will be another actual war of the gods? I’d say that was very likely, especially with the return of Z being talked about so much and Guthix still fast asleep. They do like to take matters into their own hands.
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- Other: And in one of the Anagrams of From Postage from the Hedge by the Chaos Element; when the anagram is solved it is Zaros will be reborn
If you look at issue 15's of the GOD Letter it shows Zaros grave and Zamorak's reaction to the mentioning of Zaros
Zaros will return, that's an actual fact. I'm assuming that Lucien either wants to succeed Zamorak and have Zaros banished, or Succeed Zamorak and help Zaros return to power. Idunnolol. 87.80.83.70
- When the lord zaros returns all those who followed zamorak shall be smote, the kingdoms of sara shall be smote and the zamorakian kingdom of kandrian will be crushed.--Jakezing2 23:26, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Same guy who started the topic here. Cool info i dug up, the barrows brothers may be enlisted in Zaros' army. in The Fall of Six it says "You shall stand ever vigilant for His return" since the only god who has left, and there for can return, is Zaros. The next question this raises is who is the stranger? We know he has visited the east, because that is where karil's bolt racks come from. This is really jumping off the deep end but Lucien has been around long enough and may support Zaros. Also I move that Lucien has a page made of evidence about his loyalty --70.198.35.192 23:10, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Updated with new information->zaros trivia
i didnt know if the trivia fact about the zaros grave being near the goblin village was the same as the large grave i found next to the mind altar so i put it separate, but if it is can someone edit it or something, i included the examined text because it seemed like a hint that there is something big hidden underneath that large grave =P
[edit] ancient statuette
since it is no longer zaros statuette, it is no longer a zarosian item. its now just a old item.
[edit] Uzer
In the article it says that the city of Uzer worshipped Zaros when it still existed. I never read any proof of that, and I'm pretty sure Uzer was a Saradominist city. Maybe people link the Mahjarrat to Zaros, but the Mahjarrat were in the service of Icthlarin during their time in the desert. Hippodo 3113 16:12, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
- Well, both Saradomin and Zamorak attacked the desert cities, and they only had one enemy in common: Zaros. Also, two of the Mahjarrat that are still loyal to him, Akthanakos and Azzanadra (and possibly Wahisietel if he turns out to be Ali the Wise) "live" in the desert.
Oli4burggraa Talk
16:14, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
- Saradomin never attacked Uzer right? And so what if Zarosian Mahjarrat live in the desert, doesn't mean Uzer is Zarosian. Hippodo 3113 16:19, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
