Never seen listed dropsEdit

Hi, are we SURE that a Vyrelady drops an effigy? Vyrelords do not... I've probably killed over 1000 vyreladys and vyrelords training and I've never got an effigy. Perhaps this is an error on the page? I know the weaker Vyrewatch (level 128) do drop effigies but I'm not sure if Vyreladys DO whilst Vyrelords do NOT.

I've killed a good...5k vyres, both genders, and never recieved half the herb drops, let alone the Effigy.

Come on, I know you can sign... and I have the same experience, although I didn´t kill 500 just yet. . _Yours, . AddictEnkidu ^Talk . 19:01, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

Merge charm logs?Edit

Based on their drops I'd say vyrelords and vyreladies are fairly identical when it comes to the drop table. Would it be safe to fuse their charm logs together? They're pretty much the exact same creature with different names and barely different stats. Samba 10:49, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

I would even say it's safe to merge both articles completely, since their so similar. I mean even goblins of different levels and look share the same page. These two (vyrelords/ladies) are the same, except for their ascribed sex. . _Yours, . AddictEnkidu ^Talk . 18:28, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

I respectfully disagree on your idea of merging both the Vyrelord and Vyrelady articles together per our granularity policy. As stated under the Monster Granularity section, "Different named monsters must have different articles", so even though Vyrelords and Vyreladies are similar to each other in terms of drops and levels, they are still two completely different monsters (not only by name, but by appearance and dialogue), so they should remain separate. Cheers! N7 Elite _{(Ready to talk now?)} 17:50, September 4, 2012 (UTC)