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Can anyone confirm if the Onyx is a drop from TzHaar monsters? I am pretty certain it is only obtained from the TzHaar crafting store... Shadowdancer 05:59, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Untitled 2 Shooting Star 3 Uncut onyx 4 Corp Drop? 5 wtf 6 >.> 7 Kingly loot 8 onyx gear not worth the price?

UntitledEdit

I can't confirm it but I've heard it's true. Though only from tip sites. Another question to Jagex... Vimescarrot 20:26, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

The reply was 100% pure unhelpful. Vimescarrot 10:16, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

http://www.runescape.com/kbase/viewarticle.ws?article_id=1868

--Wowbagger421 05:19, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Settled. Shadowdancer 19:53, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

And I was under the impression that it was dropped a certain other monster as well. I can't confirm it either, but that article is a bit flawed.

EDIT: Oh wow, just saw the date, yikes. --Tetris50 _{^{Talk | Ctrb | Edit}} 04:01, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Was it really necessary to say "***Includes the price for a Ball of Wool" for Amulet of Fury's profit? Verticity 23:56, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

Shooting Star Edit

Is it true that an onyx can be mined from a star or is this just a rumor?

Rumour‎Atlandy 21:42, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

My friend said he obtained one from the star.....I guess I gotta mine tons of stars as my next job.=/ Powers38 ^おはようヾ(´･ω･｀) 01:19, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Uncut onyxEdit

Prior to September 2009 store update, the price for uncut onyx was 270K tokkulwithout karamja gloves. Now, the price increase to 2700K tokkul. I have filed a complaint to the forums but I need your support! 89mch 00:59, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Jagex has already said they will not be backing down on their change to the price. They calculated (in 10 minutes) that onyx is now 10x easier to get so they upped the store prices. All without multiplying players' existing quantities of tokkul by 10 to reflect the new value, interestingly enough. I'm sure they considered this and had to make the tough decision to render all player's tokkul worthless overnight with no warning. Psycho Robot talk 22:41, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

hey! we met on the rs forums :P. thanks for support and the info. If the people stand up and sufficient users quit, the voice will be heard. I think the Removal of Wildy riots did work because Jagex had to do something and brought PvP world. Not that i'm much of a rule breaker.89mch 04:29, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Personalised shops have made the practice of world switching worthless as each players personal shop information is carried from world to world, making the cost for an onyx at 5 Tokkul a fire (minimum price) and fire runes at &0000000000000010000000 10 each uncut onyx will cost the player &0000000005400000000000 5,400,000 leading to actual profit from the gem at only, based off the price of a fury, &-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-3-1-3-1-1-9-3000000 -2,020,083. That's not bad but it now takes twice as long to do it as they didn't update the amount of Tokkul that everything can be sold for as far as I can tell. Otherwhise why would Chaos runes still sell there for 9 Tokkul (when stock is at normal)? They still haven't updated any other way of getting Tokkul except for selling fires, I just did my firecape and only got 8032 Tokkul Ж 11:04, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Corp Drop?Edit

Since when did Jagex remove this from corp drop list? --Halo^Talk 14:59, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

As far as I know onyx was never in corp drop list, it was just rumors. Lathow 21:32, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, so I looked through a bunch of Corp drop logs, about 10k kills, and I could not find a single occurrence of an uncut (or cut for that matter) onyx drop. I saw a ton of Onyx bolts (e) dropped, however. I additionally could not find a video of an onyx drop from the beast. If there is conclusive proof out there that it does in fact drop an onyx gem, then feel free to change it on the page. If it turns out that it is out there and I couldn't find it, my bad- we all make mistakes. --Suppa chuppa 23:54, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

wtf Edit

You would earn money by getting 99 craft with these at 400k a cut, not lose mills at the trivia says

That was before the shop update that changed onyx prices. Uncuts were more expensive than cuts back then.--ElmerFudd893 23:16, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

>.> Edit

"Though it is occasionally worth more cut than uncut, cutting the onyx in hopes of earning money is not advised because of the extremely low demand for cut onyx gems."

Anyone else see a problem with this statement on the onyx page. Last I checked there is an extremely high demand for both cut/uncut onyx gems alike...

edit:Now it reads "Though it is occasionally worth more cut than uncut, cutting the onyx in hopes of earning money is not advised because they can be hard to obtain, and can change prices suddenly, possibly resulting in the loss of large amounts of money."

Problem: Cutting the onyx won't hurt anyones chances of losing money, so this entire sentence is false and has no purpose other than to be misleading. An uncut onyx is pretty much useless in itself as is a cut onyx. Either way it is highly unlikely AT THE MOMENT for anyone to buy an onyx from the GE (It's ~90m street value), so the 200k price difference is negligible. Prices are highly unlikely to change suddenly as the only sure-fire way to get one these days is with 2.7 million tokkul (I've never heard of someone getting an onyx cut or uncut from the Corporeal Beast, though I have no proof that it isn't a drop. On the other hand saying it could be a drop from the corp is just as viable as saying it is a Super Duper Rare drop from a goblin...no one can dissprove that either). Lastly it shouldn't even be considered a possibility of losing large amounts of money by cutting an onyx, because either way people are making one of two things: Onyx Ring or Amulet of Fury. Whoever rolled back my edit which clearly stated that whether the gem is uncut or cut makes little to no difference (or something along those lines), is a complete moron (I think it was Halooah (sp?)) and should actually look these things up before writing misleading facts that thousands of runescape players read everyday.

Thanks,

~Warez

Why thank you! I have seen people get the drop on video, adventurer's logs, and in person. I also believe they can be gotten from kingly implings, but I'm not 100% sure on that. If you could propose something better, I'd be happy to leave it there. Halo^Talk 17:59, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

What about this: "Though it is occasionally worth more cut than uncut, cutting the onyx in hopes of earning money is not advised because due to the gem's high street value, they can be almost impossible to obtain, meaning it is unlikely that a player could gain decent rates of experience off these gems." Yes? No? Halo^Talk 18:02, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

My main point was not exactly with whether it was a drop from Corp or not but rather that it previously read that there was an "extremely low demand for onyx gems" which was simply incorrect. I changed it, and then you reverted it back for reasons I do not know. Then you edited it to something different which was still incorrect. Now it STILL reads "cutting the onyx in hopes of earning money is not advised because due to the gem's high street value" which doesn't even make sense. The whole point is that CUT OR NOT the gem has a high street value, and both cut and uncut have the same value. The sentence is flawed and should be re-written to say that both cut/uncut versions are equal in value or just taken out completely.`Warez 18:12, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

My bad, I thought we were talking about experience still. I reverted your edits, because I did not understand what you were saying. I'm gonna go try to work on a fix. Halo^Talk 18:14, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

What about: "Though it is occasionally worth more cut than uncut, cutting the onyx in hopes of earning money is not advised because they are very hard to obtain, and cutting them won't make the price change enough that a player could make significant profit." ? Halo^Talk 18:16, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

1.) I don't see why it would be occasionally worth more cut than uncut. I'd say it is the opposite seeing as if you don't have the crafting level to cut it in the first place you really can't make anything out of it.

2.) No one would cut the onyx in hopes of earning money. It is worth the same uncut as it is cut. Advising not to cut it is pointless whether or not they are hard to obtain.

3.) They won't make or lose profit by cutting it so mentioning that it won't affect the prices by cutting it is pointless.

The whole sentence needs to be chucked out. Just off the top of my head, it could read "Due to the tokkul and TzHaar shop update, the store price of an onyx gem changed from 300k to 2.7M tokkul. As such, an onyx gem is roughly worth the same whether it is cut or uncut, due to the exceedingly high demand for them to be made into an Onyx Ring (i) or Amulet of Fury." Mind you that is redudant as there is already mention of the Personalized Shops update, but you could blend the two together.

`Warez 18:37, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

Works for me. Halo^Talk 18:37, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

Obtainable from kingly implings???

I cant find that in Kingly impling article.

Kingly loot Edit

Since there does not appear to be any proof of onyx being looted from kinglies, and quite a few people believe that it is not obtainable from them, I tagged as disputed.  To3cutt3r ^{Talk HS Log}  16:57, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

I removed the tag and the sentence stating that it was obtainable from kingly implings. A while ago, I believe that the list of "possible ways" of obtaining the gem was replaced with "As there are only a limited number of ways to obtain an onyx gem it is by far the rarest gem in RuneScape" since there is no evidence of one being obtained from the Corporeal Beast or from a kingly impling. Suppa chuppa ^{T C CVRC} 19:15, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

onyx gear not worth the price? Edit

would it be fair to say, that onyx gear is only useful as prestige gear, and is in no way worth the cost?

dragonstone gear has almost the same bonuses, has a large variety of free teleports and costs about 230 times less.

is there any reason at all to routinely keep onyx gear around? i just have my onyx rings i made years ago and can't see any value in them at all. Jagex has promised an update for them, but i don't see any evidence that they will make them worthwhile in the next couple of years

Onyx gear is worthwhile but under certain circumstances. First off the onyx ring is decent, but I am going to focus on the fury amulet for simplicity sake. (Berserker necklace has it's use for obby maul pures, and ring of stone.....thats another story.) Anyways, Fury is worth it. The current price 16m, yeah it's expensive but it's worth it only if you can reasonably afford it. I suggest having a net worth 75m~ before getting it, if you have to break your bank over that amulet than forget it. I am going to assume you do slayer , because most high level players have the capability to afford fury comfortably. in terms of strength bonus/overall bonuses you should buy/get(excluding 1 handed weapon): Slayer Helmet > Dragon Defender > Barrows Gloves > Dragon Boots > Berserker ring (make (i) eventually) > Fury Amulet > Bandos Tassets/Fighter Torso (Proselyte armour is better if you're praying piety or turmoil) > Bandos Chestplate (Proselyte armour is better if you're praying piety or turmoil) in terms of money ratioed to strength bonus.

If you melee. Some of us prefer to blow everything up. --Andorin (Talk) (Contribs) 00:56, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

I suppose that is true, even so, magic is near useless on most tasks/cost ineffective. (Except for a select few, mithril dragons, Ice Strykes, etc.) Not hating on magic, because it was my first 99 skill but it's usefulness during routinue high level slayer tasks is minimal. Range can benefit from the fury as well, Amulet of Ranging is a good alternative at the sacrifice of various bonuses.

That being said, in the context I have provided, melee, unfortunately is the best way to go about most tasks.