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according to the article it deal dmg based on your farming lvl, im just wondering what's the max hit Death reap 18:14, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
- I dont have the following equipment or 99 farming but if u get +49 str bounus (str bonus does effect max hit with secratuers i tested it) using DFS,bandos tassets,bandos chest/fighter torso,neitzoit/zerker helm,dragon boots,fury and barrows gloves i think you can max hit 20 with magic secrateurs (i used Tip.it's Max Hit calculator[1])
- Even though the calculator works off strength it seems to be a similar formula for finding the max hit for secratuers if you enter your farming skill instead.
- e.g.1 i used magic secrateurs on their own without any strength bonus items and i max hit 9 with 65 farming i enter strength bonus as 1 (str bonus of secratuers) and strength lvl as 65 (my farming skill) and tip.it's calculator comes out with max hit of 8 (close they are not always acurate)
- e.g.2 i used magic secratuers with fighter torso, obby sheild, glory, barrows gloves, dragon boots and nietzoit helm (+35 str bonus) and i max hit a 12 and the Tip.it's calculator comes out with a max hit of 12 also. --Teblin1 00:11, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Is the hit really farming based?????[]
I did fairy tale part 1 so long that i got the secateurs.
[did the needed quests with recoil and friend vengenging]
I got att,str,def,magic,range, <- all these lvl 1 and then def 14, hp 17, cb 14...
but WTF?!?!? did i do this account with no reason? I tryed the secateurs with defensive style on monks at monastery.. but wtf?!?!? i hit only 1? the same as with fists??? so is this farming based thing just a joke or what???....
[note: i did the quests only so far that i got the secateurs didn't kill the tanglefoot at the end] would this be the reason?
- Whats your farming level? by about 10 farming you should defenitely be hitting 2s at least.
- If your not it maybe because you havent finished the quest shame really as that would make def pures unable to use them --Teblin1 21:23, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- after futher testing of secratuers using chef's dleight to reduce my strength too 1 (strength lvl 85 farming lvl 65) and gradually increasing it with str pots, i discovered that if your strength level is below ur farming level then ur strength lvl is what determines max hit. if your strength lvl is higher than your farming level then your farming level then your farming lvl deteremines max hit (i.e whichever skill is the lowest determines max hit) this therefore makes secratuers useless too a defence pure that has str of 1 :(--Teblin1 13:59, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Yeah it's farming based. It's works out the formula in the same way as strength, attack and defence for other weapons. 
Zenihdrol 
00:51, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Article cleaned up[]
I've cleaned up the article. Before, there were little snippits of information all over the place and wayyyyy too many paragraphs, I wanted to find out where to retrieve the secatuers cause I lost mine, but was hard to find the information I needed. Furthermore, since there's an unneeded animation on the article which is sort of out of date, (character stance is back to the way it used to be, one foot in front of the other) should I upload a new still image? Or someone else can? Zenihdrol 00:46, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Must they be wielded?[]
In order to gain the bonus listed, must they be wielded? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 93.97.250.47 (talk).
- This Tip.It thread quotes a JMod as saying "Magic secateurs give an average increase of 10% on your yield, when you are farming herbs, hops or vegetables. They do need to be wielded for this to take effect." Unfortunately, that post from 2006 can no longer be found on the official forums, so the Tip.It quote is the only record I could find of that. Anyway, it does seem that yes, it must be wielded to work. If anyone wants to experiment and contradict the old JMod statement, I'd love to see the results. --User:MarkGyver/Signature/Real 22:00, March 31, 2011 (UTC)
To get the bonus...[]
To get the 10% bonus do the magic secateurs have to be wielded while you plant the crop or while you harvest? --Aihem 15:53, September 15, 2009 (UTC)
About more than one of them...
http://thps-mods.com/upload/u/LOLOLOZ1548.png
Variable Speed?[]
Why do the secatuers have the variable speed icon?
- That was because the parameter was filled in incorrectly. It's now fixed. JOEYTJE50TALK pull my finger 23:15, March 28, 2011 (UTC)
Vs magic secateurs[]
Finally, if you wear your amulet of nature while harvesting an allotment, your crop yield will be greater (though not quite as much as using magic secateurs, and using both does not 'stack').
For completing A Fairy Tale Part I - Growing Pains, you will be rewarded with a pair of magic secateurs. If you equip these while harvesting, they will increase the number of vegetables, herbs or hops harvested by 10%.
Therefore, the boost of the amulet of nature is less than 10%, that of the seceteurs, if the source is reliable.
http://services.runescape.com/m=rswiki/en/Farming_-_Extra_Features —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hi Im James (talk) on 01:03, July 12, 2013.
Does wearing an amulet of nature while wielding magic secateurs reduce herb yield compared to wielding magic secateurs alone?
Magic secateurs = +10% herb yield
Amulet of nature = <+10% herb yield
From the official runescape wiki:
- "If you equip these [magic secateurs] while harvesting, they will increase the number of vegetables, herbs or hops harvested by 10%."
- "If you wear your amulet of nature while harvesting an allotment, your crop yield will be greater (though not quite as much as using magic secateurs, and using both does not 'stack')."
From the unofficial runescape wiki:
- "If both amulet of nature and magic secateurs are equipped, only the amulet's crop [smaller] yield boost will be applied."
The question is, is this true? Are you penalized for wielding / wearing both? Although it seems this may not be true, it is probably worth un-equiping the amulet of nature, just to be safe, since wearing it as well won't provide any additional bonuses. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hi Im James (talk) on 01:16, July 12, 2013.
- This is being discussed over at Talk:Amulet of nature#Vs_magic_secateurs. IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 06:39, July 12, 2013 (UTC)
Broken?[]
Is the magic secateurs broken by any chance? Or perhaps it never worked properly? I've been gathering some data for the discussion above, and started by getting 50 data points (harvests) with no boosts at all, and with only the magic secateurs equipped. The plot was treated with supercompost. I averaged 7.52 grimy torstols without any boosts, and 7.52 grimy torstols per harvest with the magic secateurs equipped... (Yes, exactly 376 grimy torstols in 50 harvests in both cases). I can't imagine that a sample of 50 would be so small not to cause any difference at all in the results... Either the average harvest yield is determined while planting/growing, and not at harvest (in which case something like a magic secateurs or amulet of nature cannot possibly increase the yield when harvesting), or the magic secateurs is broken. Or it only matters to wield it while you plant the seed? IP83.101.44.209 (talk) 12:05, April 21, 2014 (UTC)
- This is being tested over at Talk:Amulet_of_nature#Data. Zants (talk) 09:53, March 6, 2015 (UTC)