Talk:Experience
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[edit] Reorganization 10 Nov 2008
I reorganized the entire article into several sections. I rearranged the paragraphs and grouped them together under "Gaining Experience", with a subsection involving the exponential growth of experience. The "Combat Experience" section is two equations from the Skills article plus the monster equation, which was for some reason under "See Also" in this article. I think the "Relationship with Level" section is self-explanatory. "Equations" is composed of new information that I put together (and also put on the Skills article) about the mathematical relationship, and "Table" retains the table of levels and experience. I also tweaked some bits and pieces like fixing grammar, adding links, and removing redundant information caused by my new additions. -- Jared 68.97.56.173 23:23, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Alternate Uses
Can't "XP" also translate as ":P" with a laugh at the same time? While rarely used in RS, I've come across it several times here, and it's more common amongst games that don't feature the alternate meaning of Experience Points. Is it worth including? —Yleron (talk • contribs) forgot to sign this comment on 2007-05-24T12:01:53.
- If it's rarely used in RS, and this wiki is about RS, it seems a bit too obscure to include. If anyone does see XP written in public chat or on a talk page here on the wiki, they will probably get that it's an emoticon from the context. So I guess I would say no it's not really worth including. Leevclarke, AKA Max Bulldog
00:42, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- I may change my mind about this. Maybe we should list all reasonable interpretations, and leave the user to pick the most appropriate from the context of where they see it. Usually there will be no ambiguity. Leevclarke, AKA Max Bulldog
18:38, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- I may change my mind about this. Maybe we should list all reasonable interpretations, and leave the user to pick the most appropriate from the context of where they see it. Usually there will be no ambiguity. Leevclarke, AKA Max Bulldog
[edit] Exp calculation?
The experience scale is is a linear decay. The equation is something like this;
- Y=0.90572581463947592807398535639101X-.000001
When this equation is graphed onto a chart, it shows the decreasing experience needed to be a level. On a graph of 10x10 blocks, it starts at (9,9) and goes to (0,0). (9,9) represent level 99 and (0,0) represents level 1.
Just some extra information.
Joshua
Vincent
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is the formula for Runescape's Xp(the formula in equation form where L is the level you're calculating for) --Alex 14:26, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone know how/why we know that equation? I can't imagine that someone spent enough time analyzing the curve to get an exact fit, but how else would we know that? I've always wanted to know, and maybe that would make a good addition to the article. Mischlings 18:37, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
- Well that would be the best way to work it out. There's two curves I can think of that can be used (level against experience at level, and level verses experience since last level). Since either curve is obviously exponential (as the
value starts small and gets large very quickly), you have a base for an equation in terms of
and
(along the lines of
where
is experience,
is level, and
and
are unknown constants). Then messing around with that equation, possibly some calculus, and maybe some computerised methods of determining curves' equations, you could come up with formula above.
Gaz Lloyd Calcs!Awesome 19:37, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
This is extremely interesting but I fail at maths, can anyone show a graph that sums up the above formula for the unenlightened like myself?--86.149.45.110 20:09, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
[edit] XP Table Error
Shouldn't level 1 be 0 xp? You start out with no experience at level 1...
Also, there is an error in the table. Level 16 shows less xp than 15!
When I put the xp formula into excel, I got the following info, which is slightly off from the table in the article.
| Level | Exp. | Exp. Diff | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 0 | 0 | ||||
| 2 | 83 | 83 | ||||
| 3 | 175 | 92 | ||||
| 4 | 277 | 102 | ||||
| 5 | 389 | 112 | ||||
| 6 | 513 | 124 | ||||
| 7 | 651 | 137 | ||||
| 8 | 803 | 152 | ||||
| 9 | 970 | 168 | ||||
| 10 | 1,155 | 185 | ||||
| 11 | 1,360 | 204 | ||||
| 12 | 1,585 | 226 | ||||
| 13 | 1,834 | 249 | ||||
| 14 | 2,109 | 275 | ||||
| 15 | 2,413 | 304 | ||||
| 16 | 2,748 | 335 | ||||
| 17 | 3,118 | 370 | ||||
| 18 | 3,526 | 408 | ||||
| 19 | 3,976 | 450 | ||||
| 20 | 4,473 | 497 | ||||
| 21 | 5,021 | 548 | ||||
| 22 | 5,626 | 605 | ||||
| 23 | 6,294 | 668 | ||||
| 24 | 7,032 | 737 | ||||
| 25 | 7,845 | 814 | ||||
| 26 | 8,743 | 898 | ||||
| 27 | 9,734 | 991 | ||||
| 28 | 10,828 | 1,094 | ||||
| 29 | 12,035 | 1,207 | ||||
| 30 | 13,367 | 1,332 | ||||
| 31 | 14,837 | 1,470 | ||||
| 32 | 16,460 | 1,623 | ||||
| 33 | 18,251 | 1,791 | ||||
| 34 | 20,228 | 1,977 | ||||
| 35 | 22,410 | 2,182 | ||||
| 36 | 24,819 | 2,409 | ||||
| 37 | 27,478 | 2,659 | ||||
| 38 | 30,413 | 2,935 | ||||
| 39 | 33,652 | 3,240 | ||||
| 40 | 37,229 | 3,576 | ||||
| 41 | 41,176 | 3,948 | ||||
| 42 | 45,534 | 4,358 | ||||
| 43 | 50,344 | 4,811 | ||||
| 44 | 55,655 | 5,310 | ||||
| 45 | 61,517 | 5,862 | ||||
| 46 | 67,989 | 6,472 | ||||
| 47 | 75,133 | 7,144 | ||||
| 48 | 83,020 | 7,887 | ||||
| 49 | 91,727 | 8,707 | ||||
| 50 | 101,339 | 9,612 | ||||
| 51 | 111,951 | 10,612 | ||||
| 52 | 123,666 | 11,715 | ||||
| 53 | 136,600 | 12,934 | ||||
| 54 | 150,879 | 14,279 | ||||
| 55 | 166,642 | 15,764 | ||||
| 56 | 184,046 | 17,404 | ||||
| 57 | 203,260 | 19,214 | ||||
| 58 | 224,473 | 21,213 | ||||
| 59 | 247,892 | 23,420 | ||||
| 60 | 273,748 | 25,856 | ||||
| 61 | 302,295 | 28,546 | ||||
| 62 | 333,811 | 31,516 | ||||
| 63 | 368,606 | 34,795 | ||||
| 64 | 407,022 | 38,416 | ||||
| 65 | 449,435 | 42,413 | ||||
| 66 | 496,261 | 46,826 | ||||
| 67 | 547,960 | 51,699 | ||||
| 68 | 605,039 | 57,079 | ||||
| 69 | 668,058 | 63,019 | ||||
| 70 | 737,635 | 69,577 | ||||
| 71 | 814,452 | 76,818 | ||||
| 72 | 899,264 | 84,812 | ||||
| 73 | 992,902 | 93,638 | ||||
| 74 | 1,096,286 | 103,383 | ||||
| 75 | 1,210,429 | 114,143 | ||||
| 76 | 1,336,451 | 126,022 | ||||
| 77 | 1,475,589 | 139,138 | ||||
| 78 | 1,629,208 | 153,619 | ||||
| 79 | 1,798,816 | 169,608 | ||||
| 80 | 1,986,076 | 187,260 | ||||
| 81 | 2,192,826 | 206,750 | ||||
| 82 | 2,421,095 | 228,269 | ||||
| 83 | 2,673,123 | 252,028 | ||||
| 84 | 2,951,382 | 278,259 | ||||
| 85 | 3,258,603 | 307,221 | ||||
| 86 | 3,597,800 | 339,198 | ||||
| 87 | 3,972,303 | 374,502 | ||||
| 88 | 4,385,785 | 413,482 | ||||
| 89 | 4,842,305 | 456,519 | ||||
| 90 | 5,346,341 | 504,036 | ||||
| 91 | 5,902,840 | 556,499 | ||||
| 92 | 6,517,263 | 614,423 | ||||
| 93 | 7,195,638 | 678,376 | ||||
| 94 | 7,944,624 | 748,985 | ||||
| 95 | 8,771,568 | 826,945 | ||||
| 96 | 9,684,587 | 913,019 | ||||
| 97 | 10,692,639 | 1,008,052 | ||||
| 98 | 11,805,616 | 1,112,977 | ||||
| 99 | 13,034,441 | 1,228,825 | ||||
| 100* | ||||||
Daves.not.here 18:33, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
- The formula isn't wrong, it's just an approximation. The equation on the page right now,
, is an approximation of the true equation, which Alex has posted above. You can see that if you neglect the floor functions in the true equation, you will get this approximation. It seems to me to be a good approximation, since it is only off by 10 XP at level 99. As for the other things you mention, it seems someone fixed that in October. -- Jared 68.97.56.173 20:24, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- This issue should be resolved with my reorganization today. I put both the exact equation and the approximation in the "Equations" section. -- Jared 68.97.56.173 23:40, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
