Talk:Defence

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Contents 1 Done 2 Strategy 3 First paragraph incorrect? 4 Obsidian 5 Cape emote 6 Training 7 Affects offensive capabilities? 8 Defence versus defense 9 Cost of dying 10 Highscores? 11 maximum defense bonus 12 No F2P maximum bonus? 13 Bad images? 14 Max def numbers 15 Fault in the highest Defence bonus obtainable?

[edit] Done

This page should be done now. Whew, that was quite a workout. --Richard1990 01:29, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

It's not done - what about prayers that increase one's defense level in the temporary boosts section?Mathwhiz90601 00:08, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Strategy

The entire "strategy" section of this article can be debated. That segment attempts to make it appear low defence does not work. I know from personal experience that a standard set of stats, for example 80-80-80, are inferior to more aggressive stats, such as 80-90-70.

I'm not trying to start a debate here, but the strategy section is biased and reflect the author's views rather than actual fact.

Oh, almost forgot - black pures are a fad that died out a while back. The two main types of pures around today are simply 1 defence and 20 defence for mystic and initiate.

80-90-70 isn't a pure. Although you're probably right, its likely more effective, as they can wear the same armor, minus the dragonfire shield. 70.58.186.57 04:43, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

To my knowledge pures have there advatages and disadvatages. For example, your in the Wilderness or BountyHunter with no armour but you have a high defence level. You face a Strength pure. YOUR DEAD. Now with armour... The odds completely change depending on your defence level and his strength level. Pures with high attack and strength will usally win. With your high defence and good armour you may stand a chance. You can see people with level 60-75 combat with equipping strength capes. Strength pures will always have a advantage and a slight disatvantage.

[edit] First paragraph incorrect?

Defence is a player's protection in melee combat.

Isn't defence used in ranged as well, if not ranged and magic? Using the long ranged setting to range trains defence, which really means it's not just melee it's related to. Matt2 00:17, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Def is just defence, no matter what class.--Richard (Talk - Contribs) 00:19, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Obsidian

What about adding obisidan sheild to the requirments section?

C |-| 3 3 5 3¹³⁵⁶² 21:29, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cape emote

It's like he only stops ranged attacks XD Buzz ^{(Talk • # • √ • P )} 09:10, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

How is that relevant? 75.55.49.251 02:55, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Training

Shouldn't we add a section for it? Zaveno</span> ^Is_Awesome!

No. Assuming you're training melee, there isn't a difference between training attack, strength, and defence. Aquilae 19:24, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Affects offensive capabilities?

I have a friend who says that having a high defence lowers the amount of damage you can deal. I strongly disagree with him, but I don't really have any proof. Has anyone ever heard of this before? Aquilae 19:24, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Thats RidiculousTebuddy 22:55, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

It's not ridiculous it's Very ridiculous

[edit] Defence versus defense

The opening paragraph of this article includes the American spelling of defence, i.e. "defense". I wonder whether this is justified, given that the style guide says: "British spelling should be used at all times."

I agree that the Defense article should redirect to Defence, but I'm not sure we should be using this spelling in the article. Jagex actually does spell the word with an "S" a couple of times in the manual, but these are most likely misspellings on their part, rather than intended use. Would anyone care to help reach a consensus? Leevclarke 19:04, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cost of dying

I don't think the "cost of dying" is the reason Defence pures are rare. A true 1-1-X pure will always be ineffective against things much higher than a Cow anyway, so they won't bother trying to fight such things. It's statistically improbable for a Cow to kill a player with 30 or 40 defence (Adamant and Rune armour). With the update to the monks, you can't leave your computer and have the character fight indefinitely, so virtually no risk of getting killed by the Evil Chicken, either. inclusivedisjunction 10:23, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Highscores?

Some idiot messed up the defence leaders with 200,000,000 exps. The two leaders are Miles15 and Omarsherif. I fixed it for you.

[edit] maximum defense bonus

replaced torag's helm with statius's helm. it exceeds torag's helm in all except mage bonus and is equal in summoning bonus. dont have enough time to add them all together to recalculate the overall max bonus. Jdogy15 12:35, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

• I'd also like to see a maximum defence table for magic, or is there already one somewhere else? Draco 06:35, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] No F2P maximum bonus?

I swore that I saw one earlier before...How come it's removed? 600613 21:40, 11 January 2009 (UTC) 21:40, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Bad images?

I really, really believe that we can find a better image for the "old defence sign" and the attack style one underneath it. anybody agree?
Quaesitum^(talk)

[edit] Max def numbers

all of the numbers there assume degradeable armor. what are the items for nondegradeable armor? Mathwiz908 17:10, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Scared Clay Class5 Armour is level 80 def just syaing that should be changed

[edit] Fault in the highest Defence bonus obtainable?

While the Defence bonuses section says that the maximum Slash Defence bonus is 472, the Maximum Defence bonus section states the number is 469. Does anyone know the real number?

Intercision 16:51, November 13, 2009 (UTC)