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I assume, being a longsword, that this is a 1-handed weapon?...and if so that (if I am not much mistaken) means that it is the strongest 1-handed stab weapon in the game?195.137.81.78 01:06, April 14, 2010 (UTC)

It should be 1h else its name would be something like Chaotic 2h sword lol. Btw according to jmods 'However, you may be please to know, we are currently reevaluating the token cost for each reward.' meaning that it might be possible to use this at level 80. Lathow 22:12, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

I have heared that it hits half damage on the corp beast ([1]

Any evidence to back this up?

It does NOT have damage reduced against the Corporeal Beast. "Some players suspect using a non-spear type weapon, such as a longsword, results in a damage reduction. This has been confirmed by Jagex as nothing more than rumor. Some people have suggested this rumor was propagated by merchant clans seeking to influence Zamorakian Spear prices." - Corporeal Beast article Vynergy 19:14, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

While you've posted that quote on every chaotic weapon article Vynergy, do you have any proof to back it up? I've seen no citation as to where jagex says this is "nothing more than a rumor" and darkbow spec with dragon arrows is known to min 40-40 on corp, half of what the special is supposed to *guarantee* as a minimum hit. I'd like to see proof either way, either that there is a damage reduction or there isn't. I'm sure someone has tested this somewhere. Admiral Kip 19:47, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Or maybe, people who ahve chaotic longswords tell that it sucks, I have yet to try my C-Long at Corp.

grave issue Edit

does the cls appear on your gravestone when you die?124.104.36.251 10:10, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

I an pretty sure it does unless you recieve it as an item kept on death of course. Hope that helps. Sentra246 10:11, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

How long does it last in "normal" use? Edit

I think this should be included in other items' pages as well... Anyway, can someone calculate how long would it take for it to go from 100% charge to 0% with normal use (e.g not in constant combat 10 hours straight, similar to how actual human beings would use it)? I personally would like to see calculations based around slayer, castle wars, clan wars and PvM. :)

Would be greatly appreciated, I'm sure.      ^_« Iceman ^_»      16:30, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

Chaotic Longsword - Alchable Edit

As pointed out on the forum

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Someone posted on the forum saying they alched their sword. He even said he wasn't being careful because the Runescape Wiki says it can not.
I really think this should be fixed (I can't do it, I suck at editing) As many people are getting mislead and being careless. Thus, blaming RS wiki for saying this information.

I believe there's a way to find alch value without actually alching it, like 3/5th of the risk value on the items kept on death screen, or something like that. If anyone could tell me what the risk value is, I'll add in the alchemy value. For now, I'll change it to "unknown" to prevent things like this from happening in the future.

~Kuma

01:04, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

It is risked to be dropped if you have another item to take its spot that is worth over 20,000,000 coins of wealth. If let's say bandos tassets went to 20,000,001 you would keep the tassets over the longsword. There are two things about this, the first is that you may choose the longsword over the tassets unless you are in a dangerous PvP area, such as the wilderness or the red clan wars portal. The second thing is that prices can change while in the dangerous PvP area, therefore changing which items you drop to your opponent, which is an instance that doesn't allow the choice of which items to drop. Pm meh @ PvM Strm, tht's the acc i'll be on - 7:37 (EST) Dec 30 2011

Chaotic longsword is 130k risked wealth. 173.57.74.191 23:37, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

Chaotic Rapier vs. Chaotic Longsword Edit

I have did a lot of reach into which is better and I think I have some answers that will help people decide.

First thing I learned is that boosts matter a lot. With Extremes and Turmoil, the speed from the Chaotic Rapier is a huge advantage because of the high boosts. It seems to be that the boost from Extremes and Turmoil is big enough to make up for the gap between the two against most high defence monsters so the speed tends to win. Without boosts, the CLS seems to be better for fighting higher defence things due to its higher base stats. So for lower level players without extremes and turmoil or piety, CLS is probably better choice.

Next is weaknesses, since CR is better for stabbing and CLS is better for slashing, even though both can do both. As for weaknesses, there are many monsters weaker to stab than slash. Notable monsters weak to stab are Aquanite, Bork, Commander Zilyana, Corporeal Beast, Dagganoth (Not Supreme), All Dragons, Dust Devil, Fire Giant, Giant Mole, Hellhound, Jungle Strykewyrm, K'ril Tsutsaroth, Nomad, Tormented Demon. Notable monsters weak to slash are Black Demon, Dark Beast, Desert Strykewyrm, General Graardor, Greater Demon, Nechryael, and Warped Tortoise. So as you can see many more higher defence bosses are weak to stab than crush, and for stabbing the CR seems much better than the CLS (19 less str and 11 or so less atk but 1 speed faster).

So overall, I believe Chaotic Rapier is a better choice since most bosses and high level monsters as well as many slayer monsters are weak to stab. However, for General Graardor the Chaotic Longsword is probably better, but for the other slash weak monster the Chaotic Rapier on Slash or an Abyssal Whip should be close enough since they are lower defence. Of course, there are other exceptions, such as PVP where it seems CLS may be better, especially for players without Turmoil/Piety.

Well that is what I found, but it is conclusive the slightest. Both are a great weapons and chances are they close enough to even overall. Bio 04:23, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Results Edit

This is a follow up from my previous post on my theory of the differences. I just got my chaotic rapier and tested against my friend's cls. We were near the same other bonuses, not exact but close enough. He did have a bit higher boosts (Chaotic shield>dfs, fire cape>skillcape), but I don't think those made enough difference to prove ht results wrong. All tests were done without food, drinks, and special attack, but some did use prayer. First, we tested weapons in Barrows and DFS/CKS without any prayers. CLS won this easily, without boosts it's accuracy was far better than CR and won in the long run every time. With prayer, only turmoil, it was much closer, nearly a tie, but cls was still better. Next, we tested weapons in Rune with Defenders to simulate gear you would risk, but still did use some items like fury. Without prayer, CLS won again, but it was much closer. With prayer (turmoil only), it was a tie. CR won 3 (one was more of a tie) and CLS won 1, but the none tie wins were rather one sided in hits. We also did no body, leg, helm with defender as shield and turmoil as prayer, CR won everytime. So overall, I think I finally got an answer to this. For PVP, CLS is better. If you are really into pvp, even if it is low risk, and have a CR, I still think CLS would be worth getting. If you occasionally PVP, probably best to stick with CR unless you got enough spare for CLS. CLS is way more accurate and can hit about 40+ more base damage. However, tests were without potions, which may have made CR closer to CLS, but I still think the KO potential and higher accuracy is better for PVP, especially if fighting players in Barrows! For bosses, I am unsure which is better but since many bosses weak to stab, it may be CR. But CLS does still have higher stab atk and str so hard to say. So to sum it up. For slayer CR wins, for bosses they probably tie (CR may win one some, CLS wins on bandos), for no def pvp CR wins, for low def pvp they tie, for high def pvp CLS wins. CLS is best for PVP while CR seems better for PVM. Those are my results and conclusions anyway...Bio 05:43, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Just look at their stats, the cls is 25% slower than the rapier, but the cls has 18% higher str and 33% higher attack points. 18 and 33 average out to about +25% higher stats. meaning really they're close to even as the rapier is 25% faster but the cls has 25% higher (average) stats.Mofo Pr0 09:13, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Kept under grave? Edit

(Question applies to all chaotic weapons too). Does the chaotic longsword appear under the gravestone if it is not kept on death?

i have the same question and if you die and dont get it does it work

Yes. I once saw a thread on a runescape forum where someone posted a screenshot of his rapier in the bandos room under his gravestone. Which sucked for him because he could never get the killcount fast enough... Anyways, yes. It does. iLevi; at your service. 16:17, August 24, 2011 (UTC)