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This talk page is for discussing the RuneScape:Clan Chat/Requests for CC Rank page.

Closure...for now[]

I believe there are more than enough ranked people in the chat now. Every time I visit the chat (which is every day), there are at least 3 ranked users, and occasionally I see that ranked users far outnumber unranked users. Should we close these requests for now until we need more ranked users?  Tien  17:19, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Earlier today I was the sole ranked user in the CC: however, it was barely a 5 minute period before more ranks logged on/joined (though somewere corporals that can't kick anyway, at the moment =/). Let the current requests go through (including Lewa's), then close it. No more requests should be opened.
On a related note, Vex's request needs to be closed - I would do it but an uninvolved admin should do it. Weird gloop @Gaz#7521 17:29, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Sounds good.  Tien  22:52, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
There are two more requests. o.O Any thoughts on whether we should close them or let them through?  Tien  17:33, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Keep them open until the current ones are done, then close it =D RSN: Puff / 8th Armadyl Bunny talk
00:24, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I second that --CannonballJack Spiral1Rapier 00:26, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Reopen it. The Australasian timezone needs more ranks and they can't get more with this page closed. ~ Fire Surge icon Sentry Telos Talk  18:44, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

We've been over this point below. This is null and void. Zaros symbolChaos Monk Talk SignCoins 250 00:37, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Can you reopen it. I have noticed that around midday there are no mods on. Onedude|Talk

I suggest this be reopened on the basis of AEAE and the following reasoning behind disregarding numerics. Having a set limit or percentage of people is a deterrent, and there are numerous reasons why a pyramid setup is unhealthy in a consensus based community. Most simply put, the issue lies in the following: People who are trustworthy are being kept from attaining a position where they more-than-likely will be of some value at some point in time, simply because we think "there's enough." There is no reason for a limit to be necessary. We need to stop treating this like a position of responsibility where having too many would be harmful, and treat it like what it is: a recognition of being trustworthy enough to be able to intervene in a bad situation. -- Anonymous

We have a limited amount of space available and can't fill it with Sergeants when wedon't need to, keep in mind that each new admin is given a rank and we require space for that as well, Byte Master.-- 02:08, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
Fair point! And off-topic: there are rules and regulations against revealing a user's IP, and vice versa, since the point of having a username is for a) identification purposes and b) to mask your IP. Whether or not you are correct in doing so, the above comment is still a violation of some of the key Wikia privacy regulations. Be thankful I'm not of the spiteful, reporting variety.  ;) -- Anonymous

Time Zones[]

I think we have more than enough ranked users in America and areas in similar time zones. I live in Australia, and I find that often when I come home and play RS, there are not many people in the CC, sometimes none. This is because most of the people living in America are asleep (however, when I play in the mornings, the CC is often packed with 5+ ranked people). Thus I feel a need to focus on choosing people who live in Australia, Asia, New Zealand or somewhere with a similar time zone. ~ Fire Surge icon Sentry Telos Talk  08:24, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't think timezones should really be a major factor in selecting ranked users. This seems very limiting, and the point of having a ranked user at all times is great, but if worse comes to worse, you can just hit "Ignore" and add said user to your list, blocking all of his text inputs. Just my two cents. --Zaros symbolChaos Monk Talk SignCoins 250 23:28, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Timezones shouldn't determine whether a person gets a rank or not. Per Chaos Monk. Statistics Lvl 3 skils3 Choice! Talk~ Holiday Signup ~Hiscores 18:32, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

:::1. Doesn't that bring up RS:AEAE? Only it's all editors are equal regardless of location?

2. People can lie about their time zone, and IP addresses don't always tell the truth. Butterman62 (talk) 23:10, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
I meant to say shouldn't... STUPID TYPOS!!!!!!! Statistics Lvl 3 skils3 Choice! Talk~ Holiday Signup ~Hiscores 03:52, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Oh, okay. Nevermind then. :) Butterman62 (talk) 03:56, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm not saying that. I'm saying we should try to get more people in this particular time zone. Currently, requests have been closed as there are 'more than enough ranked users' but I find in my time zone there are often no ranked users. If anything, it's the closing of this that is against AEAE. What's with that? ~ Fire Surge icon Sentry Telos Talk  03:03, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/6375/ccnoadmins.gif

Here is a screenshot of the clan chat taken at 5:12 pm East Australian time on Sunday, the 31st of May. As you can see, the chat has lots of people in it but no admins. It is usually like this, only less crowded. Occasionally Jediadam or Caleb are on, but this image still reinforces my point that we should unprotect this page. ~ Fire Surge icon Sentry Telos Talk  07:19, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Soldier came right after. FredeTalk 07:28, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Whatever, but the point still stands that there are often no ranked users with the clan chat in this time zone. ~ Fire Surge icon Sentry Telos Talk  17:49, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
During this period, exactly how many times was a kick needed? Weird gloop @Gaz#7521 20:55, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
None, but C00l Dud4 wanted to kick me for reasons I find really sad. "You're not a wikian so we can kick you". Pathetic. -- 20:59, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Are you talking about when you spammed the chat yesterday with "@@@@@@@@" a dozen times pretending that you had just got a visage drop?? To me it would have been tempting to kick you if I had the powers. You totally disrupted the conversation because of the mass amount of @@@s and kept on spamming even when people asked you to stop. Plus you didn't actually get a visage drop and was spamming for the sake of it.
Also to what Gaz said, the point is not that nobody needed to be kicked, it is that someone had the potential to kick if it was necessary. It is like a safety precaution, with it being better to have one just encase and not use it rather then not having one and needing it. I didn't mean allude it to condoms, it just seemed the best way to explain it. Unicorn horn dust Evil Yanks talk
Everybody gets excited when they get a Visage drop, and nobody told him to stop...
http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu224/Frede173/visage.png FredeTalk 10:23, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
<edit conflict> If that was the case Supirion, I would've warned you, and since you carried on when others asked you to stop, I assume you would continue and I would've kicked you. But whatever, its past.
Yeah, I see your point, it does help; at times (mainly from about now to 2-3h hours time) I'm the only rank online (sometimes Caleb is on, other times some sergeants are on), however the CC has hardly anyone in it (often ≤5, but me being alone is not uncommon). However I never see any trouble. We may need some ranks in time zone shown above, but we can't reopen RfRs for just one rank, from a certain time zone. We don't know if they're telling the truth about their time zone, or if they will be on when they're needed. Also, there would be outrage from the other users nominated for an RfR - we rank someone when their RfR is on hold, simply because of their time zone? Hardly equality between editors. Weird gloop @Gaz#7521 10:29, 1 June 2009 (Uhttp://runescape.wikia.com/index.php?title=RuneScape_talk:Clan_Chat/Request_for_CC_Rank&action=editTC)
I'm not sure, but I think that other ranked users could be doing something and do not wished to be bothered. Sometimes, I am online and do not join the cc yet because I happened to be busy. If someone would pm me for help, I would rush right over and help. Santa hat Powers38 おはようヾ(´・ω・`) 10:34, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
He didn't get a visage drop, he was just pretending he did. He wasn't actually typing that because he was excited, he was pretending to be excited and was spamming for the sake of it. Also, I remember me saying stop spamming to him. I assuming that the reason above that superion is talking about is the same incident. That is 2 people. I got to go but I will write more later. Unicorn horn dust Evil Yanks talk10:41, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
If someone was lying about their time zone, someone would quickly notice that they're never on in Australian/Asian time. Easy to fix. Also, I see trouble semi-regularly. See here [1], for example - and there were no kickers on at the time. Since then, the user in question hasn't caused any problems (as far as I'm aware) but there have been other incidents within the CC where a kicker has been needed. And, as Evil Yanks said earlier, it's good just to have a kicker in case one is needed. I see your point about it being against AEAE, but we need either:

1. More kickers in the Australian/Asian/New Zealand time zone OR

2. American or British users who are willing to stay up quite late or wake up very early to moderate the clan chat. An example of a user who does this is Jediadam.

~ Fire Surge icon Sentry Telos Talk  06:31, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

To Gaz: I agree with you that it would be unfair to say "Nobody can apply for a RFCC...except for you, you and you". I believe that it would cause more problems then it would solve. Though, AEAE should have nothing to do with it. You could claim that there is not AEAE right now because some candidates just as good or better then some of the old candidates wont get a rank for a while because they waited a day too late to put in the RFCC or because they went on holiday and came back to late. All editors can never be equal because of the context of the time. Sorry that this is not well written, mind wandering. Unicorn horn dust Evil Yanks talk 07:08, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
I think what Evil Yanks means that this is just as fair as if someone was unable to submit their RFR request before it closed. ~ Fire Surge icon Sentry Telos Talk  18:03, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Figured a simple way of putting it. While ranked people are needed in the Australasia timezone, trying to fix it would cause too many problems. That is why nothing should be done right now and just wait until RFRs open again.
In reflection, what I wrote yesterday did not (and still doesn't) make much sense. Unicorn horn dust Evil Yanks talk

I think that not enough users are ranked. Mostly in America. I live in America, and everytime I go on the R s Wikia CC, there is like no more than 2 ranked users. Remember the wikifests in the winter and Spring 2009? Wasn't there a Clan wars activity? Well, no one was able to challenge because They were not ranked. Maybe all users should be at least a private.

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Impossible, its a free account, only 100 people may be ranked. We have way more than that that would like to be ranked. And 1 is enough to kick, why you think we need more than 2 at once is beyond me.--Degenret01 18:44, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

When are the requests going to be re-opened? ~ Fire Surge icon Sentry Telos Talk  07:54, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

When its viewed that there aren't enough ranked members ? Karis Talk to me 08:24, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
I completely forgot I posted here lol =S. 06:18, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
But there AREN'T enough ranked members, especially in my time zone. ~ Fire Surge icon Sentry Telos Talk  10:38, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Telos, I completely agree with you on this one. 08:05, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

So on average, how long do you see no ranked members in the CC? And how much trouble is there that calls for ranked members?--Degenret01 08:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, once, my friend and I were the only ones in the cc with this guy called Zaltais. He was spamming up the chat and attacking my friend and we could do nothing except add him to our ignore. 08:40, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
There should always be at least one ranked member in the chat to deal with problems should they arise. I don't understand why this has been closed because the Australasian time zone needs more ranked users. ~ Fire Surge icon Sentry Telos Talk  20:17, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I think that Telos is right we need more ranks during the later eastern Australian time zone there is alot of times when i log on and there isn't any for hours at a time we need more ranked users for this time Quest point cape Dryrth Talk Quest map icon 10:37, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Gotta agree with Dryth and telos, at my time the clan chat is a no-ranked user time. There needs to be more ranked users for the +5:00 to the +12:00 time Ruud (talk)(Suggest me naems) 10:46, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Proposal[]

I propose that we open up the rfr page for east australian users, (can't admins check where users are from? <(-...-)>)


Discussion[]

Support - As nominator.

10:48, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Support - As a person that believes there isn't enough ranked users for east Australian timezones Quest point cape Dryrth Talk Quest map icon 11:59, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - The big problem is that people will lie, and the tool you are talking about is called CheckUser. CheckUser is a tool designed to look at a user's IP and some other server log data about them. However, there are two problems. First, people can use an IP address that are very inaccurate in telling where they live; someone living in America could have an IP address indicating Brazil or something. Second, CheckUser is only supposed to be used in the most extreme cases; privacy is a serious issue and private details should not be unveiled at whim. For more information, you can read here. Butterman62 (talk) 14:01, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I should also clarify, admins cannot checkuser. Only people in the "Check users" group can do so. Butterman62 (talk) 14:02, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - Per Butterman and my reasons above (basically not fair on others and against RS:AEAE). Weird gloop @Gaz#7521 18:48, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - Per Butter and Gaz. That's utterly ridiculous. You can't say "you aren't allowed to request a rank because you aren't from Eastern Australia". It's all or none. Andrew talk 18:50, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Oppose I think we have plenty of ranked users already ‎Easter eggAtlandy 18:54, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - If something comes up, then we'll see to it. But I haven't heard of any problems in the clan chat due to lack of ranked users, so it's fine. Also, as mentioned above, we can't just hand a rank to some user based on where he lives.  Tien  19:00, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Comment - Look, just close this.

20:10, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Comment - Why don't we simply unlock this? We need more ranked people from the Australasian timezone; that doesn't mean we should cut off the people from other continents too. Just reopen the requests. ~ Fire Surge icon Sentry Telos Talk  06:09, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and to Tienjt0 - There have been several occasions. Please see Supirion's and my comments above. Also, if you search the Yew Grove you can see I started a thread about banning someone from the CC, and the issue stemmed from lack of kickers to deal with the problem. ~ Fire Surge icon Sentry Telos Talk  06:11, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

You mean banning legaking? I called calebchiam in, you could have told him everything. Santa hat Powers38 おはようヾ(´・ω・`) 08:19, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Telos, are you talking about that incident where Supirion was spamming (as shown in the screenshot a section above)? If so, it's rather ironic that Supirion wants the requests to be reopened when he was the person causing the problem... also, I see no recent proposals in the Yew Grove about problems in the chat that arose from lack of ranked users.  Tien  12:25, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I am talking about the issue with Legaking. And Caleb didn't log on until AFTER it had settled down. I still have the screenshots. I can upload them if you want them. ~ Fire Surge icon Sentry Telos Talk  18:42, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Where did I mention Legaking? :/  Tien  21:13, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Comment - I also find it hard to notice that every one who opposed has a rank and does not live in Australasia.

07:50, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - There is simply no fair way to get more ranked. There is definitly a need for them though. Yesterday when I was on for about an hour, (from 7.30-8.30pm Eastern Aus) there were 6 people in the cc but no ranks. None of the ranks on my friends list were on either. Unicorn horn dust Evil Yanks talk 11:18, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Comment In the instance above when there were 6 people in, but no ranked...did you need a ranked person? More often than not, a ranked person is not needed, and when one is needed, one can be called in. Ranked users do not have to be babysitters and supply constant vigilance over the cc ‎Easter eggAtlandy 16:01, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Nobody could be called in if someone needed to be kicked though. Of the 5 ranks that are often on at that time, 3 are on my friends list. None were on at that time. While the ranked users should not babysit, there should still be one in case anything does happen. It is better to have a ranked user and not need it then to not have one but need it. Unicorn horn dust Evil Yanks talk

Comment - I am presently uploading the images of the incident with Legaking. It shows that there were no people in the Clan Chat to deal with the problem when it was at hand. Shortly after Legaking calmed down, Caleb joined the chat to help mediate, but it was already over. ~ Fire Surge icon Sentry Telos Talk  19:05, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

http://i657.photobucket.com/albums/uu293/Telos40/Look-nosysops.jpg

The images aren't in order, sorry. Start at the bottom-left corner and work your way up to the top. There is a line missing at the top, where (on one side) I say "Legaking, are you Trying to start a flame war?!" and on the other side I say "I'm trying to mediate." ~ Fire Surge icon Sentry Telos Talk  19:15, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Comment Is this an isolated incident? I would think so. Kicking people on the cc is not a common occurance. One time (above) where a ranked user isn't on. ‎Easter eggAtlandy 19:24, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Comment - But there shouldn't be occasions when a rank is unavailable when needed, like shown here. If there are multiple times when a rank is needed but unavailable then there clearly AREN'T enough ranks. Also, why don't you want RfRs reopened? ~ Fire Surge icon Sentry Telos Talk  20:42, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

...Telos, that happened two months ago. Have there been any incidents since then? Also, how can we guarantee that ranking a person in your time zone would solve any problems in the chat? Unless that particular person logs on for the exact same duration of time every day without fail, there will always be a time when no ranked users are on. Even in US time zones, where there are tons of people ranked, there are occasionally times when no ranks are in the chat. Would ranking even more people in US time zones solve the problem?
In additon... I'm not trying to sound mean (and sorry if I do), but didn't you say that you deserved part of the blame in that incident? Hardcrewdy (or whatever) played most of the role in angering Legaking. That incident was really not Legaking's fault, although he shouldn't have started flaming. But Hardcrewdy shouldn't have said what he said to start Legaking's flaming in the first place.  Tien  21:13, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

High Oppose for reopening rfccr - Everyday I log on to the cc,I see at least 10 ranked. admitted,I've never been on at the same time as scorch(telos),because he lives on the other side of the world from me,so I cannot account for those times. But I am always surprised at how many ranked are in the CC. there is absolutely no need to give out more ranks. and RS:AEAE,meaning no editors receiv more rights just for living in austrailia.Sorry,telos,sorry. --

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03:35, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Comment When I'm on during the day i see a lot of ranked users on but by the time its the afternoon here there isn't any anywhere i know there is only a few incidents but that doesn't change the fact that there still isn't the ranked users in my opinion it is better to be safe then sorry.Quest point cape Dryrth Talk Quest map icon 09:45, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Strong Oppose This would violate the AEAE principle established at the wikia's creation. Sure, in the matter of Superion and "w000000t"ing a million times was uncalled for, but that's [i]one rare instance[/i]. The chat could then be left, an admin or Tien contacted, and punishment could be dealt. Sure, it's a long process, but justice eventually gets delivered. If this should pass, then the AEAE rule should be changed first, and that's very unlikely. Zaros symbolChaos Monk Talk SignCoins 250 00:42, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Ultra Strong Support Sometimes I see no ranked users. I think (although this would be against AEAE) if you can prove you are on when there are no mods, you should be given mod-nes. EDIT: Oops, forgot to sign Onedude|Talk 16:27, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Umm, Chaos monk, look in the Yew Grove.

00:44, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Super-Uber-Super Strong Support- Per all above, although we should be a lot stricter about who gets a rank, and who doesnt  Magic longbowCurrently at мϊţ¢Ħ Fletching

"Current" RFCCRs?[]

How come the "current" RFCCRs have been struck out instead of simply archived and deleted? ~ Fire Surge icon Sentry Telos Talk  00:37, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

It was abruptly stopped after we agreed that we have enough ranks. Once we need ranks, they can continue easily. Santa hat Powers38 おはようヾ(´・ω・`) 00:41, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Re-Open[]

I propose re-opening the requests for rank section. As the image below shows, at 5:35PM, Eastren Time, There is one ranked user in the clan chat (Gaz Lloyd).

http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv168/Mitch247/Picture1.png


http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv168/Mitch247/Picture2.png

We need more ranked users incase of vandals, spammers, missuse's ect. Of course, we already have many ranked users, we will be tighter about who gets a rank an who doesnt, than the last time this section was open (May 29, 2 Months ago) This will allow for other users who have grown since then to place a request, and be judged by fellow wikians.

 Magic longbowCurrently at мϊţ¢Ħ Fletching

We discussed this for a month and it was shot down on the Yew Grove. All the reasons for not needing more ranked users are there. Besides, one ranked user is enough. It only requires one person to make the kick. Andrew talk 21:51, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
(conflict) There only needs one rank to kick, and the entire time there was no need for any kicks. In fact, there was barely any conversation at all. Weird gloop @Gaz#7521 21:56, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Closed please No point, it will not be reopened.  Magic longbowCurrently at мϊţ¢Ħ Fletching


Requesting Re-Open[]

I have been in the Clan Chat every day for the past few months, and have noticed a very large stream of times where there are either only 1 or no ranked users. I have seen some periods of half an hour or more where there are 10+ users in the chat with no ranks among them. Also, some of the current ranked users have become semi active/inactive. I propose we let in a few more ranks.--Cheers, Off-hand Ascension crossbowYodaAscension crossbow 18:04, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Comment - Today I was in the chat, and there were many users with me, so many I had to scroll to see all their names. I was in checking on the clan chat after a round of Castle Wars, and I noticed that there were no ranks at all. Another user started to advertise a different chat cc. All anyone could do was warn him, as there were no ranks in the chat at the time.--Cheers, Off-hand Ascension crossbowYodaAscension crossbow 18:30, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

I agree we need a few more ranked users. Several times this week when I entered the CC I was the only ranked person, so there were none before I joined. At one time there were 12 other users, none ranked. Our cc user list has grown so a few more ranked people will help keep it the safe place we want it to be.--Degenret01 11:15, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

I haven't found any list of criteria that says when to re-open, so I'll just be bold and do so.--Degenret01 15:36, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - If I recall, some users were in the middle of their rank requests when we closed them. If we do decide to reopen requests, we should probably inform those users and check to see if they still want to request a rank.  Tien  15:43, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Also, I am thinking along the lines of maybe 5-7 people to get it where were always covered. Just my thoughts.--Degenret01 16:07, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - Seeing as how we already have 9 users attempting an RFR, it would fill the time zones that have few ranks online at the time. As well, we most likely don't need 9 or more new ranks, any more should recieve a <s></s> through them as this page is getting flooded by requests. Thanks. Ryan PM 01:32, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Well, in cases like this, a queue is used. Someone shouldn't not have a chance just because they didn't get here in time. AXBucket detailrwojy 02:26, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

How to nominate

To nominate a user simply place a header below containing the RuneScape Username of the user (REQUIRED!), and a section for discussion. Please allow only a maximum of 3 requests at a time to control flooding issues regarding any request. Please note: At any given time possible which is deemed that the Clan Chat already contains enough ranked users, this page is to be protected until additional ranks are required.

So we are just going to ignore this and let this list go on for an eternity? And the point you make would apply to those who didn't even get to get ranked when it closed the first time. As well, life isn't fair. Ryan PM 02:37, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Nooo, that's not how I meant it. Let me make it clearer: The rfc was just recently opened. That makes it very possible that people who live in a different timezone to have not seen it. People should still have a chance to gain a rank for about a week or two, then they will be closed again. That is how I see it. MFVRNDRBucket detailrwojy 02:53, January 31, 2010 (UTC)
Alright, but here is the kicker, are we going to stop it when all are finished or do as it says, when it is deemed that there are enough ranked persons? We'll see when it ends. Ryan PM 03:06, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

How many ranks are going to be given out? All 15? Or just a few? Swiz Talk Review Me 15:37, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

So, what's actually happening?[]

About a month ago me (and 5 other users) got successful RfR's it's been just over a month since it finished so I wanted to know whats been happening, Thanks.  Swiz Talk 16:40, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Mention how to request rollback[]

Blast, this page shouldn't be protected when there are enough, some people can still clean up the page. >:( Anyway, can some admin post at the top of the page:

RS:RFR Redirects here. If you want to request rollback rights, ask a bureaucrat on their talk page.

Because I know that at least a few confused users will type in RS:RFR to get to rollback requests. User:Dave Lopo/Sig 20:44, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

spare[]

Is there spare rank left for me? because i am rollback on rs wikia. My runescape account name is iXbox720 if i got accept. Please use my talk page to discuss about my rank. thanks Japol1 February 16 2011, 11:31 (Utc)

I'm sorry, but the requests for ranks are closed. As soon as they open again, you are free to nominate yourself for a rank. It is adviced only to nominate if you are really active in the clanchat. JOEYTJE50TALKpull my finger 11:45, February 16, 2011 (UTC)
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