RuneScape:User of the Month/August 2007

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Syugecin

• Suppport: 16
• Pending/Neutral: 0
• Oppose: 0

It is possible to nominate now, right? It's already July (in England that is). Well anyway, I nominate Syugecin. He is pretty active in the Wiki and a great editor. Chiafriend12 02:39, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

=D tee why vee ehm. Syugecin^spam 02:47, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Extremely strong support! Deserves it! =D ^{The Nifty One,} Speckle 02:53, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Support Scratch what i said! i didn't realize he was away Derial^{(Boywithbrain)} 15:20, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Support I hated Syugecin once, but now... =DDDD User page "Katshuma" Talk page 21:10, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Support He seems to be nice and I think he deserves it. Joshua Vincent ^{Talk Contrib} 20:28, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Support Syugecin is a good boy, not a bad boy! =D Cashman ^{talk|editcount}20:17, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Support. A nice person and he deservers it. Tesfan 21:29, 16 July 2007 (UTC) _{I'm only supposed to vote once. Tesfan 16:40, 29 July 2007 (UTC)}

Support. All the way. ^TIRRIAN_GANT ^(TALK) 16:13, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Support. Definite UOtM material. Hyenaste^talk 04:19, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

SuppOrt with a capital o. You rock. ^^ --Whiplash 02:19, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Support - Great user, Syu deserves this! Ilyas Talk Contribs 21:01, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Support - Enough reasons have been given already =] Christine^Talk 22:25, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Support - =P.  ^GANGSTERLS   _talk23:31, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Support - Ice 23:58, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Support - Syu deserves this by a mile a great editor.Tawn21 ^Talk 01:07, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Until you give me a reason not to, Non-Opposing Momento Mori _{Real Pain}^{Not Champagne}20:17, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Support- Hes a good pal Patcong ^talk 17:02, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Support This dude is evil ^{like hell}Korak 08:18, 31 July 2007 (UTC) Support, Krispy. 1. Krispy, objective.

A person with appealing appeal and Unique swagger. Mr. Reeves 10:58, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Syugecin is now the featured user for August. Dtm142 01:32, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Clv309

• Support: 14
• Neutral/Pending: 1
• Oppose: 2

Christine is an active participant in both the RuneScape Wiki and the wider Wiki community, and has made many significant contributions to the Wiki in the last few months, which I believe is grounds for Featured User status. Chaoticar 21:27, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Neutral or Oppose, IDK. Let's say PENDING - Christine has made some significant edits, but I have recieved an in-game complaint that she's being obnoxious (how do you spell that?!)/arogant, though I haven't looked into it. I will not say the user who told me this, as this would be violating their right to privacy. Chiafriend12 22:15, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Stuffage!...Support! Greats edits! Deserves it a heckuva lot! =D ^{The Nifty One,} Speckle 22:26, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Support - I have my reasons for support but I don't think it's the right tto basing your vote on what others tell you. Ilyas Talk Contribs 22:30, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Support - Handles the IRC really well. I have no proof about the complaint so it's void. Chiafriend12 23:17, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Support User page "Katshuma" Talk page 21:10, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Support, she is one of the few people I respect. --Themurasame ^Hiscores 05:39, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Support, a great user on the wiki! Emosworld 08:54, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Changed to Neutral - I'm not going to base my entire vote on a single issue, which seems to have grown, about a vote for deletion but I think she's a bit short tempered. Still a great user and does lots of good things, which is why I'm on neutral and not oppose but I think it's ok to say everyone has downfalls and that people should try to correct them. However, please don't kill me for this and no, it's not an attack on a user, just exercising freedom of speech and stating my opinion. Ilyas Talk Contribs 18:57, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Support. Especially with her recent work on inter-wiki relations :D Hyenaste^talk 04:20, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Support - "Cabalsupport for a great [user]"^(reference) Cheers, RelentlessRecusant 'o the Halopedia Team ^TALK • _MESSAGE 14:11, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Support A worth person. Blargh 02:08, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Neutral Worthy person. However she seems to think I hate her and continuasly bother me about an inappropriate name I called her on the IRC a while back. If she can't learn to get along with me then I will have no choice but to switch to oppose. I admit I have places I can work on too. --Whiplash 02:21, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Whip, don't you realize that I know you weren't/aren't serious about that? Christine^Talk 02:28, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Support I don't see any faults =P Syugecin^spam 22:13, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Support 0 Of course not Christine im never serious on anything. :P --Whiplash 16:33, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Support - Might as well tip the balance. :) Sαcrε Fι 23:20, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Support Tarikochi 23:28, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Support Purely for her HUGE deletion log and help on the IRC Derial^{(Boywithbrain)} 15:20, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Oppose. Does not control herself sometimes when she gets upset and lets her anger get the best of her, causing unnecessary things to happen. Sorry, but I had to say it. Don't take it wrong. Also, doesn't act very appropriate on IRC herself, while she won't let certain people (me) use any semi-offensive language due to my (admittedly ridiculous) age. Again, don't take it wrong. I just don't think you deserve it as much as Syu. Cashman ^{talk|editcount}17:12, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

And here is your proof, Chia. Look at her talk page too for it. The arguments go back and forth. Note there are two, one of which I am included in. Cashman ^{talk|editcount}17:16, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Wth?? YOU WEREN'T INCLUDED! YOU JUST JUMPED IN WHERE IT WAS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS! Are you telling me I'm the only one who swears in IRC? YOU DO. Are you telling me that it was not reasonable of me to kick you for calling someone gay? I had my reasons. And don't act as if I'm the only one who does what you've listed. Christine^Talk 17:26, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Here are your answers, angry person:

• 1. Jumping in makes me included, even if it isn't right to be included. I made myself included.

• 2. You wouldn't let me say "female dog" about MYSELF, while you go and drop the F bomb in front of everyone saying I can't swear cuz I'm "like 9" (I'm 11, smartypants)

• 3. I WAS FRICKIN KIDDING! You just don't like jokes. Like anyone but you took me seriously.

• 4. I didn't say you were the only one. O_o

• 5. There you go, flipping out again... Cashman ^{talk|editcount}17:38, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

It wasn't a joke, it was a personal attack. I don't swear as often as you're trying to imply. You're not even in IRC that often. You're trying to make it SEEM like I'm the only one, and yeah, if you're attacking me I'm going to defend myself. Christine^Talk 17:43, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

How am I making it seem like you're the only one if I just said "I didn't say you were the only one."? It was a joke if I was kidding. Personal attacks are serious things made by people who hate someone. I don't hate anyone here, not even you. And look at yourself on IRC. You do swear quite a bit. And I am in IRC as much as time allows, which isn't your business. Just leave me alone. Every time I comment on something about you, you freak out like I'm some sort of idiot and you are god. Maybe sometimes I'm right and you're wrong. Cashman ^{talk|editcount}17:52, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Now you're making things up. "you freak out like I'm some sort of idiot and you are god" I've never implied that, but attacking me certainly isn't helping. Christine^Talk 17:56, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm not attacking you, you just take criticism as a personal attack. Also, what I said wasn't my words, it was an anonymous person that I talked to recently. Cashman ^{talk|editcount}18:01, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Also, this argument is over before it turns into GENUINE personal attacks. Cashman ^{talk|editcount}18:02, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

I've just changed from "neutral" to Oppose. It is not an attack if Cashman is simply stating his opinion. Christine seems to have, as she has just exhibited, a short temper. I think you should just calm down, have a cup of coffe or tea (whatever you have) and take a break for 20 minutes. Ilyas Talk Contribs 18:33, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

'Support Christine is prob the most helpful person here on the wiki. I have learned how to edit and how to be a more active contributer to the wiki from her. All of her articles and changes are looked over twice as much, and everything she says is argued because she is a girl. If you dont believe me just look at when she puts something up for VFD. Atlandy 18:39, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry but I don't believe anyone here is sexist. I do not discriminate people by race, gender or nationality, or by any other similar factors, nor does any other user here. Christine's comments and opinions are not argued because she is a female but rather because people simply do not agree with them. Ilyas Talk Contribs 18:45, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Ilyas, he's just "stating his opinion" -.- Let him say what he wants, I can't say I totally disagree. Why am I the only one ever told to stop? I didn't even start this, Cashman did. You started the fakes thing when you kept harassing me in-game. And look: Christine's comments and opinions are not argued because she is a female but rather because people simply do not agree with them. So why am I not allowed to have opinions, but everyone else is? Why can't I disagree with someone else, yet everyone can disagree with me? Christine^Talk 19:02, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

You don't exactly respect my opinions... Cashman ^{talk|editcount}19:59, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

And I just noticed: You don't respect me either, though you need respect for yourself. It is unfair how you say this to me while you expect me to do whatever you say. Let that sink in and think about it. Cashman ^{talk|editcount}20:03, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

You... have a ball of flame as a spirit, yes. But what you use it for (eventually) ends up good, albeit some side-affects. Till I get a good reason (not bias reasoning) why I shouldn't, Non-Opposing (Could I support both nominees? Oh well.)Momento Mori _{Real Pain}^{Not Champagne}20:17, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

You can disagree with him just don't go overboard typing in caps and telling him that "it doesn't concern him" or saying "what the hell? you jsut came into this". I mean, I'm not taking away your rights but don't go overboard when having an arguement. Ilyas Talk Contribs 20:22, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Look at this:

"3. I WAS FRICKIN KIDDING! You just don't like jokes. Like anyone but you took me seriously."

So Cashman is allowed to yell, but Christine isn't? I have an idea. Perhaps this should be renamed the “nicest person ever” award. Because apparently arguing is taboo here. Tesfan 20:30, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

...Omg. This is getting ridiculous. I was yelling cuz she doesn't seem to understand me. I'm not gonna bother arguing with you, Tesfan, though. I don't wanna lose any more friends. I'm calming down, so leave me alone. I'm in my happy place... Cashman ^{talk|editcount}20:40, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

You don't seem to understand me either. Why can't I yell? How come only you can? How come other people can argue with me, but if I argue with them its a big deal? I don't know why people are constantly nit-picking every single thing I say, but its really annoying. And no one can say that doesn't happen. Chaoticar said he nominated me because of all the deletions and wanted pages work I do for the wiki. He knows that I argue, but it didn't affect his nominating me. Why can't everyone stop attacking me on this? Christine^Talk 20:48, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Oppose. Now just wait a damn minute here. Cashman didn't mean what he said. Peace! I say you should give this damn argument up cause it's flippin annoying me. Now you may ask, who am I? I am Beanball, the bald sheep master. I am also a dedicated reader of this wiki and I know most users here well (including my friend Cashman in real life, who is in the bathroom while I am typing this out.), so don't void my oppose because I don't edit. SO JUST SHUT YOUR DAMN PIEHOLES! Sincerely, Beanball36 21:22, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Who are you to talk, Ben??? XD I support your oppose, but I kind of like arguing tnow that isn't very serious! XD, and you've been: Cashman ^{talk|editcount}21:25, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Just a warning: After I finish my makeshift-pasta dinner I'm going to enter this argument head on. 'Till then. Momento Mori _{Real Pain}^{Not Champagne}21:41, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

He's not a sock!!!!! He's my real life friend. Syu knows; me and Beanball have been logged on RS at the same time!!! Believe me people, I'm not that low. I didn't make a sock. I'm not lying!!! Cashman ^{talk|editcount}21:53, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

My argument was simple, Christine has been a huge help to me and others (look at her posts for example). However, whenever she disagrees with anyone, or voices her opinion, she get more crap about it than anyone. I think that her VFD for fakes is voted down more due to her gender than anything. (how do we allow something that is more or less a tribute to RS, and not from Jagex itself, have a pgae on our wiki) She is vocal, she does argue, but she also allows others to argue. How is she any dif. than all of us. I, personally, love to argue, but I get practally no response from anything I say, She gets it ten-fold. We all may not agree on alot of things, and that is what some of these boards are about, but if we are voting for someone who deserves to be a featured user, I cant think of anyone more helpful. Atlandy 01:28, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Ugh, I totally forgot to "Butt in". I'll catch up tomorrow maybe. Atlandy, thank you for that wonderful post =]. That shed a lot of truth (whether it be seen as good or bad) on this situation. As I said earlier, y'have a lot of spirit. I admire you for that ^_~, y'roll with the punches and deal some of your own. Well, since I have to take a neutral stand, I'll watch what happens for now and strike later. *Ahem* put my 2 cents I mean, not strike ^-^; Momento Mori _{Real Pain}^{Not Champagne}03:10, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

This is not the place for personal attacks on the person who is being nominated. Vote as you will, you're welcome to put some reasons down as to why you voted a certain way, Christine is able to respond, either to thank a person or to clarify what may have been a problem. However, leave the garbage on players talk pages, it ain't helping anyone here. ^TIRRIAN_GANT ^(TALK) 18:27, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

"My argument was simple, Christine has been a huge help to me and others (look at her posts for example). However, whenever she disagrees with anyone, or voices her opinion, she get more crap about it than anyone. I think that her VFD for fakes is voted down more due to her gender than anything." --Atlandy

Err...do you have any proof about the fake image VFD being opposed because Christine nominated it and she's female? Because I haven't seed any evidence of this, and accusing fellow wikians of sexism is a pretty heavy accusation. I wouldn't make those accusations lightly, if I were you. I'm sure that if any of our sysops, Christine included, had seen evidence of sexist comments, the offender would have been severely punished.  ^GANGSTERLS   _talk18:39, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Cash, you're being a jerk. It doesn't matter if you were "kidding", jokes can still be highly offensive. It just sounds to me like you're an immature child who takes no responsibility for his actions and is outraged because of retribution. Suppose I called you a fag, would you just sit there idly and not care? It's just rhetoric, but think about it. --Themurasame ^Hiscores 18:47, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Gangsterls: Blanko and Total have both called me a whore and a slut, along with bitch and other things. THEY NEVER GOT BLOCKED! This wiki is too afraid to block anyone, even when they deserve it! Blanko didn't get blocked till the third time and I had to do it myself. Don't you dare say that they would have been punished! Christine^Talk 18:50, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Tirrian, I'm not attacking. I'm also too lazy to take this to her talk. It'll go to her page, then mine, and I dont wanna go back and forth. Can I not just argue? On Christine's userpage, she says: "I'm stubborn. Butt heads with me and I won't back down." I'm like that too. Why is it wrong for me to argue? I won't lose this argument, unless it leads to blocks, in which case I will withdraw immediately. And I agree with Gangsterls, I haven't seen any sexism on this wiki ever. Atlandy isn't convincing me...come to think of it...I havent even read that argument yet. I think I should. These arguments are my entertainment for the day. ^^ Cashman ^{talk|editcount}18:56, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

EDIT CONFLICT: I PMed Sacre in game apologizing. No harm is done anymore, so lay off about that. Also, maybe Ilyas was right. You jerks are using my age against me. What if I wasn't 11? Would it be valid for me to argue if I was 20? You probably would say no. Mura, here's something rhetortic for you to think about: Maybe Christine isn't responsible for her own actions. I know at least 2 people who agree with everything I am saying here. - Cashman

SECOND EDIT CONFLICT =P: They said that? I guess there has been sexism on this wiki. I have to agree with wha Christine just said. - Who else? =P

Fine, if it's not rhetoric than you're dodging the question. Would you just let it slide like that? You're just being immature and selfish. --Themurasame ^Hiscores

I tried to end this, but it just starts again. I am gonna say it once: I am leaving this argument, so don't reference me. I tried my best to look right, but this is a cruel world. Leave me alone on this topic, I voted and want to leave it this way. In fact, with permission, I would like to delete this entire argument and forget this ever happened. This is a voting page, not a debate page. And if anyone else saw this through my eyes, you'd know that I mean to prevent future arguments on the wiki. Goodbye. Said more than I intended... Cashman ^{talk|editcount}19:08, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Fine, dodge the question all you want, but hopefully you'll learn from this. -Themurasame ^Hiscores 19:21, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Christine: I told you that I couldn't block Blanko unless I had evidence. Total is already infinitely blocked. Neither of them really had an effect on the fake image VFD, and I was asking Atlandy how sexism could have affected it.  ^GANGSTERLS   _talk19:17, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I have been fairly quiet on alot of things on the wiki, but facts are facts. Christine, while she may not create many pages, is a huge contributer to this wiki. Every little thing she does is gone over with a fine toothed comb by all the other members. Why is that? Lets take fake images for example. She put it up for VFD and look at the arguements it produced. She has an opinion adn when she expresses it she is called names. I love to argue, but I argue facts. I dont care that cashman is alot younger than I, or christine is a girl. I think that many people on here argue with her, becasue she is a girl. That may not be a fact (it's my opinion), but I will be happy to argue on that any day. I'm sure she puts up with all of the harrassment on a daily basis, but still carries on and is a part of our thing. While I am not calling out any one person or all "fellow wikians of sexism", if it looks like a duck... Atlandy 19:27, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

In my opinion, the main reason there's so much controversy surrounding her is that she's outspoken, and deals with subjects others wouldn't touch. She does put up with a lot. --Themurasame ^Hiscores 19:36, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

99 Neutrals but a personal attack ain't one. Yes, you are a good editor. However, screaming at everyone because they made a mistake or did something wrong is not to be taken. I prefer an Sacre Fi attitude more, so gentle and polite. Anyways, I didn't call you a "Whore" if the term is appropriate but... I was making fun of a Sandbox, not you. That's why I had to use Appropriate measures to edit normally like everyone. Just because I said something at someone else doesn't mean I'm slang in' at you because you edited before me.

1. . Yes, I'm an African American/Indian American Jew, and I don't take offense for any Attacks against me, so it's all good.
2. . I would choose oppose, but because you might be Pissed if I did. (Meh).
3. . Just because your a Sysop doesn't mean your Superior. All editors all equal, even Mr. Whales is on a Equal Level.
4. . I'm 21, and just because your a Minor doesn't always mean your ahead, pointed out on Reason 3. Mr. Reeves 10:54, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

You had called me a whore 2 times previously. Christine^Talk 12:20, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I do not think Christine's gender is effecting her image on the wiki in any way. People are thought of for their personality and not for their race/sex. I know this community ver well, it's like a second home for me and none of us here are, from what I know, sexists or racists. So why do some people, such as Cashman, myself and others, tend to argue with Christine? For many reasons. But the most unlikely one is because of her gender.�� Ilyas Talk Contribs 21:41, 31 July 2007 (UTC)