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Offensive language alerts when adding interlanguage linksEdit

Hello. I am trying to add a PT interlanguage link to the Black hatchet page, and i am receiving an offensive language alert that is blocking me from saving my changes. This is happening because in Portuguese, "Black" is "Negro", which i understand is sometimes used as a racist insult in English. However black equipment was named like this in Portuguese. Could an admin do something? Crowborn (talk) 17:07, December 7, 2016 (UTC)

Link added, but someone else will have to update the filter. Since it's a private filter, I can't see it, but I can easily imagine it's a pile of spaghetti. --Saftzie (talk) 17:19, December 7, 2016 (UTC)
From the filter's comments: "DO NOT ATTEMPT TO MODIFY THIS FILTER.". Are you ok with us just giving you rollback instead as a workaround? cqm 18:51, 7 Dec 2016 (UTC)
DO NOT ATTEMPT TO MODIFY THIS FILTER. Seems like the admins need to talk about their regexes. --Saftzie (talk) 20:37, December 7, 2016 (UTC)
I think have have Suppa to thank for this particular mess of spaghetti. I started trying to list all the words it matches and got bored after the 64 variants of a word for male genitalia including w3n!z. I had no idea that was even a recognisable word.
I suspect there's some technical limitation that was there at some point, I have no idea of it's still there or what happens if you cross it. I'll probably have to find one of Wikia's devs to explain what it means and if it's still valid. cqm 22:14, 7 Dec 2016 (UTC)
Well, since I can't see it, I just have to imagine that someone got paranoid that any edits would break most/all the regexes. Maybe adding something like & ! added_lines irlike "^[[\w\w:.+?]]$", although that allows [[pt:w3n!z]]. That would allow something that's only a language link. --Saftzie (talk) 00:43, December 8, 2016 (UTC)
It's laid out as two massive regexes, one for words that should never appear and ones that should not appear standalone. The difference in terms of regex, aside from the content, is that the latter is surrounded by \b. From there, it's checks whether if the user is not in any specified groups, whether the edit was to a selection of namespaces. Next it checks if the text is only in the added text, so avoid triggering for edits that edit a page with it in already and also applies the second regex to new or moved titles and new users.
The full warning for the filter is:
My guess is that Suppa came up against something he couldn't workaround and decided to leave the filter for the time being. After some research, I'm still clueless what the warning could refer to. It's not the condition limit as it's up to 77/1000 and it's not the text length which is 3k/65k if T21606 is correct. cqm 09:35, 8 Dec 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for adding the link, but it would be nice to find a fix for the filter. There are many pages waiting to be created that come with that name, and having to request your attention at each case would be inconvenient. Crowborn (talk) 18:34, December 13, 2016 (UTC)
I know it's not a permanent solution, but until it's fixed, you can always request my help. :) Farming master cape Salix of Prifddinas Completionist cape 20:04, December 13, 2016 (UTC)
Oh jeeze, I should probably respond to this. The filter is very much a mess, mainly thanks to me. The do not attempt to modify is because of a bug that existed in a previous version of MediaWiki that caused the filter to match every edit if the filter's length exceeded a certain threshold. That seems to have been fixed, so that shouldn't be an issue. It's been on my mind that the filters should all be reworked to be a) more modular, b) more accurate, and c) more legible. I'll give it a think over the next few days and see if I have any ideas. I'm open to suggestions, of course. Suppa chuppa Talk 21:09, December 13, 2016 (UTC)
I have a suggestion above that should work. Although it would allow edits that add only language links, which is not ideal, it would be better than now. --Saftzie (talk) 21:37, December 13, 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, that is true. I'm wonder how you could make it a bit more generic though. Suppa chuppa Talk 01:44, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
Handing out rollback (which is exempt from the filter) is still the easier workaround which gives us much more time to figure out an overhaul. cqm 07:59, 14 Dec 2016 (UTC) 07:59, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
Except then you're handing out elevated privileges to work around a bug that has nothing to do with the privileges themselves. --Saftzie (talk) 21:47, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
I disagree. While the rights traditionally associated with rollback do not extend to exemption from abuse filters, that this filter includes such an exemption means we've implicitly created a new user right. If a trusted user has demonstrable need for a right, then they are given said rights. As we dont have a specific group for this, rollback is the next best option. cqm 23:30, 14 Dec 2016 (UTC)
That's like saying "Just do everything as Administrator on a Windows machine." The ability to add language links shouldn't require additional privileges. Maybe we should just make everyone a rollback, then. --Saftzie (talk) 02:32, December 15, 2016 (UTC)
So... I think the best way to organize/clean up the filters themselves would be to separate them out into different filters by some subattribute of the filter. This way, we wouldn't have 1 massive filter that outright blocks any edit that is perceived to be bad, and it would also increase readability/ease of modifying the filters.
If we do this, we could additionally overhaul the way in which the filters use regex to match words, because it's pretty heavy handed right now, and is one of the main reasons that the filter seems to have many false positives. Suppa chuppa Talk 10:54, December 28, 2016 (UTC)

Problems when signing comments in a certain pageEdit

Hello. I am having problems when signing comments on the Wikian title's nomination page. The thing is, it uses the new editor for some reason. I have no problem adding the 4 characters or pressing the sign button on the old editor (which this page uses), but on the new one, it automatically adds nowiki tags to my tildes, and even if i manually remove them, it just adds them back again automatically. I spoke to some people and apparently many users have reported this, and it's on every wikia, not just here. If a fix can't be found, could there be a way to trigger the old editor in all pages that require signing, such as Talk pages and pages in the RuneScape: namespace? --Raven (blue) Crowborn (Talk) 15:43, December 30, 2016 (UTC)
I always use the source code editor everywhere, you can choose it in your preferences. Other than that I wouldn't know what would trigger that other editor. Farming master cape Salix of Prifddinas Completionist cape 15:46, December 30, 2016 (UTC)
But the auto-nowiki problem i described also happens in the source editor. It's a matter of the "old editor" as in the one that shows up when editing an image's file or creating a new section here, for example. ~~~~ (note how, now that the page is making me use the new editor, my signature didn't work)  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Crowborn (talk) on 15:50, December 30, 2016 (UTC).
Have you perhaps tried to force the page to edit in source mode via the "Edit this page"/"Add topic" context menu?[1] I'm not able to reproduce the symptoms you're experiencing, but that might be a workaround for the time being. — Heaven Sent (talk) 20:27, December 30, 2016 (UTC)
Using the "source mode" of the Visual Editor is not the same as the source editor. Visual Editor (and before that the Rich-Text Editor, sometimes called the "classic" editor) have been the source (no pun intended) of may editing problems. They're mostly intended for people who just want to edit the words, not necessarily the format or other wiki-markup, on a page. As Salix says above, you can change your preference to the source editor, the real one. --Saftzie (talk) 23:52, December 30, 2016 (UTC)

Moving Batwing robes to Batwing equipmentEdit

I tried moving batwing robes to batwing equipment as the set includes more than just armour, but the destination already exists as a redirect, so the system won't let me move the page. Is an admin able to move it? Logialian (talk) 07:16, January 5, 2017 (UTC)

Also, the same goes for imphide robes and spider silk robes. Logialian (talk) 07:19, January 5, 2017 (UTC)

Done, and moved wizard robes too. --Iiii I I I 07:39, January 5, 2017 (UTC)

Renaming corrupt ancient warriors' item imagesEdit

Would an admin be able to rename images of corrupt ancient warriors' equipment? After the January 16 patch, the warriors' names in items are capitalised now. Logialian (talk) 06:52, January 24, 2017 (UTC)

They're on the to do list here. I've been slowly moving items by myself and it's a huge pain in the ass, especially when they have Exchange pages. It would be great if other administrators helped out (??????????) --Iiii I I I 07:15, January 24, 2017 (UTC)
Wow that's a huge list >.< Logialian (talk) 08:03, January 24, 2017 (UTC)

Broken Links: Starting Out GuidesEdit

In the Starting Out Guides for new users, i.e. Runescape:Editing/Your First Edit, there are some links that no longer link to a wiki page. I am bringing this to administrator's attention to fix as I don't know what guide would be replacing this outdated link and this seems to me to be an administration fix? Thanks :)Wynn Andye (talk) 21:23, January 25, 2017 (UTC)

Hey Wymm Andye, thanks for the report! I believe that rather than them no longer linking to a wiki page, it is that the page hasn't been created yet. I believe IsobelJ is the person working on creating them, but simply hasn't gotten there yet. 22px-Logo.svg.pngTyA_userpage_image.png 21:34, January 25, 2017 (UTC)
Can confirm that this is the case :) Magic logs detailIsobelJRaw rocktail detail 17:52, January 26, 2017 (UTC)

Requesting a rename in Third Age item pagesEdit

I renamed some Third Age items and caused a lot of image red links (sorry). A list of the items is below.
What I did: third age -> Third Age.

--X-popek (talk) 14:30, February 2, 2017 (UTC)

Just for future reference you can use the link to the page instead of the full URL. E.g. Drygore mace (Third Age) instead of the full URL. :) I'll take a look at the images if I7 didn't beat me to it yet. Farming master cape Salix of Prifddinas Completionist cape 14:43, February 2, 2017 (UTC)
It seems Coel already moved some. :) Farming master cape Salix of Prifddinas Completionist cape 14:57, February 2, 2017 (UTC)
Crossed off the ones that are moved. Farming master cape Salix of Prifddinas Completionist cape 15:45, February 2, 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the info, I already knew that :P. I had the list to use on Discord as someone was already moving some images. They didn't answer me but I kept the list.--X-popek (talk) 16:08, February 2, 2017 (UTC)
Done! I've moved all the images, luckily these items are untradeable, otherwise the GE pages would've needed to be moved as well :S Farming master cape Salix of Prifddinas Completionist cape 22:45, February 2, 2017 (UTC)

Unlocking Throne of Miscellania Quick GuideEdit

It looks like the quick guide for Throne of Miscellania was protected due to excessive vandalism ~2 years ago.

Perhaps we could consider opening it back up again? The page is lacking some basics like links and chat options, and has minor grammatical errors which could be fixed.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vividmind (talk).

Okay, I have unprotected it. :) 22px-Logo.svg.pngTyA_userpage_image.png 22:09, February 11, 2017 (UTC)

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