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"Pay to play fm training" redirects here. For Farming training, see Farming training.
This article is about the members' guide. For the free players' guide, see Free-to-play Firemaking training.
Worlds Icon The official worlds for Bonfires are worlds 29 (F2P), 16 (P2P).

This article gives tips on training the Firemaking skill for Members. Firemaking is trained in much the same way in F2P as in P2P; however, Members offers some additional content to firemaking such as Eucalyptus logs, Teak logs, Mahogany logs, Magic logs, Elder logs, the Ring of fire, Flame gloves, and the Inferno Adze. Members firemaking also offers burning shades in Mort'ton, but for actual firemaking training the vast majority of people burn logs. Firemaking is essentially a money-losing skill, but can be much less expensive to train than other skills usually considered to be buyables such as Herblore, Crafting, Prayer, Smithing, or Construction.

TrainingEdit

EquipmentEdit

The only equipment needed for training Firemaking is a tinderbox, which is used to light logs on fire and is automatically stored in every player's tool belt, meaning that it is unnecessary to buy one or keep one in the bank. The ring of fire and the flame gloves can be worn with a Firemaking level of 62 and 79 respectively and grant respective experience bonuses of 2% and 2%. When worn together, however, they give a 5% Firemaking experience bonus. The are both obtained as rewards from the All Fired Up minigame after completing the All Fired Up quest.

OverviewEdit

Level required Log type Experience Experience per hour Cost Profit
Per experience Per hour[1]
Regular Bonfire (solo) Bonfire (with ≥4 others) Bonfire (with ≥4 others and boosts)[2] Regular[3] Bonfire (solo)[1] Bonfire (with ≥4 others)[1] Bonfire (with ≥4 others and boosts)[2] Regular Bonfire (solo) Bonfire (with ≥4 others) Bonfire (with ≥4 others and boosts)[2] Profit/loss per log burnt[4] Profit/loss per hour[4]
1 Logs Logs 40 50 52.5 58 48,000 47,500 49,637.5 55,100 Coins 5 8.93 Coins 5 7.14 Coins 5 6.8 Coins 5 6.16 Coins 1000 339,150 Coins 100 112 Coins 1000 123,200
1 Achey tree logs Achey 40 50 52.5 58 48,000 47,500 49,637.5 55,100 Coins 5 14.5 Coins 5 11.6 Coins 5 11.05 Coins 5 10 Coins 1000 551,000 Coins 100 -111 Coins 1000 -122,100
15 Oak logs Oak 60 85 89.25 96 72,000 80,750 84,787.5 91,200 Coins 3 3.53 Coins 2 2.49 Coins 2 2.38 Coins 2 2.21 Coins 1000 201,400 Coins 250 257 Coins 1000 282,700
30 Willow logs Willow 90 105 110.25 115.8 108,000 99,750 104,737.5 110,010 Coins 1 0.21 Coins 1 0.18 Coins 1 0.17 Coins 1 0.16 Coins 1000 18,050 Coins 250 450 Coins 1000 495,000
35 Teak logs Teak 105 120 126 132.2 126,000 114,000 119,700 125,590 Coins 3 3.33 Coins 2 2.92 Coins 2 2.78 Coins 2 2.65 Coins 1000 332,500 Coins 100 119 Coins 1000 130,900
45 Maple logs Maple[5] 135 135 to 175 140.4 to 182 147.4 to 191.1 162,000 128,250 to 166,250 133,380 to 172,900 140,030 to 181,545 Coins 1 0.25 Coins 1 0.25 to 0.194 Coins 1 0.24 to 0.187 Coins 1 0.23 to 0.178 Coins 1000 32,300 Coins 250 435 Coins 1000 478,500
50 Mahogany logs Mahogany 157.5 180 189 198.5 189,000 171,000 179,550 188,575 Coins 4 4.83 Coins 4 4.22 Coins 4 4.02 Coins 3 3.83 Coins 1000 722,000 Coins 250 -291 Coins 1000 -320,100
54 Arctic pine logs Arctic pine 125 130 136.5 143.3 150,000 123,500 129,675 136,135 Coins 1 0.29 Coins 1 0.28 Coins 1 0.26 Coins 1 0.25 Coins 1000 34,200 Coins 250 433 Coins 1000 476,300
58 Eucalyptus logs Eucalyptus 193 195 204.75 215 231,600 185,250 194,512.5 204,250 Coins 2 2.46 Coins 2 2.43 Coins 2 2.32 Coins 2 2.21 Coins 1000 450,300 Coins 5 -5 Coins 1000 -5,500
60 Yew logs Yew 202.5 260 270.25 283.8 243,000 247,000 256,737.5 269,610 Coins 2 2.4 Coins 1 1.87 Coins 1 1.8 Coins 1 1.71 Coins 1000 460,750 Coins 5 -16 Coins 1000 -17,600
75 Magic logs Magic 303.8 309.5 320 341.2 364,560 294,025 304,000 324,140 Coins 4 4.19 Coins 4 4.11 Coins 3 3.98 Coins 3 3.73 Coins 1000 1,208,400 Coins 250 -803 Coins 1000 -883,300
90 Elder logs Elder 434.3 450 468 491.4 521,160 427,500 444,600 466,830 Coins 5 9.43 Coins 5 9.1 Coins 5 8.75 Coins 5 8.34 Coins 1000 3,891,200 Coins 1000 -3,627 Coins 1000 -3,989,700
  1. ^ a b c Assumes that 950 logs are burnt per hour.
  2. ^ a b c Boosts refers to the flame gloves and the ring of fire.
  3. ^ Assumes that 1,200 logs are burnt per hour.
  4. ^ a b If creating individual fires and collecting ashes. Profit/loss per hour assumes that 1,100 logs are burnt per hour, see Money making guide/Collecting ashes for more information.
  5. ^ The experience rate of maple logs is dependent on the player's Firemaking level. The table shows two numbers, the first being the experience gained at level 45 Firemaking and the second being the experience gained at level 99 Firemaking.

Assuming that 950 logs are burnt per hour:

  • Players who value their time at under 34,058 coins per hour should burn willow logs.
  • Players who value their time between 34,058 coins per hour and 427,422 coins per hour should burn maple logs.
  • Players who value their time between 430,961 coins per hour and 3,444,625 coins per hour should burn yew logs.
  • Players who value their time between 3,946,090 and 4,592,249 coins per hour should burn magic logs.
  • Players who value their time at over 4,592,249 coins per hour should burn elder logs.

General notesEdit

These basics of training Firemaking are relevant on both F2P and P2P.

  • Training Firemaking typically involves training near a bank for the highest efficiency, and repeatedly withdrawing banked logs and burning them.
  • Players can add logs to an existing fire to create a bonfire. Using bonfires yields more experience per log; however, a log is burnt every 6 game ticks (3.6 seconds) rather than every 4 game ticks (2.4 seconds) when lighting fires the normal way. Experience gained is increased per log and is further increased by up to 4% for every other player (up to five) using the same bonfire. With the maximum boost from extra players, the experience/hour for this method is provides slightly less experience per hour than lighting the logs individually, but bonfires are semi-afkable and provide the added bonus of not having to run to and from banks.
  • Training at the Lumbridge dungeon bank chest (after Recipe for Disaster) is a highly used location as a fire can be made right outside the bank. Contrary to popular belief, making a fire beside the bank is faster than making it beside the stool. Making the fire next to the bank will allow you to not have to manually click to move, otherwise, you will have to manually move to the stool, place the fire and move back.

Bonfires versus fire linesEdit

Typically, people train Firemaking by putting logs into bonfires. However, training Firemaking by making lines of fires is significantly faster (around 20% with magic logs), as it takes only 2/3 as long to light a fire than to add a log to it, which generally more than makes up for the bit of experience lost per log. However, lighting lines of fire takes a great deal more attention, costs marginally more, and doesn't give the chance to get fire spirits.

Combining Woodcutting and FiremakingEdit

Woodcutting and firemaking can be combined by cutting an inventory of logs, then burning them. This allows simultaneous woodcutting and firemaking training without the need to buy supplies and visit the bank. The most effective logs to perform this method on are teaks. A great location for this is the teaks by Tai Bwo Wannai. Alternative locations are in the Kharazi Jungle and on Ape Atoll. Using an inferno adze is a good idea.

Logs requiring a higher level than teaks will result in slower woodcutting and firemaking experience per hour because of reduced woodcutting speed.

Level 1-99Edit

This section will show the time and number of logs needed to reach level 99 if switching to each newly unlocked log type you can burn as soon as possible, along with the prices of the logs involved.

Level 1-15 - Normal logsEdit

Logs The best way to get from level 1 to level 15 is by burning normal logs on a bonfire to which five or more players are contributing, which grants 52.5 experience per log.

  • Experience needed - 2,411
  • Logs needed - 46
  • Time - 166 seconds
  • Logs cost = Coins 1000 16,422

Level 15-30 - Oak logsEdit

Oak logs The best way to get from level 15 to level 30 is by burning oak logs on a bonfire to which five or more players are contributing, which grants 89.25 experience per log.

  • Experience needed - 10,952
  • Oak logs needed - 123
  • Time - 443 seconds
  • Logs cost = Coins 1000 26,076

Level 30-35 - Willow logsEdit

Willow logs The best way to get from level 30 to level 35 is by burning willow logs on a bonfire to which five or more players are contributing, which grants 110.25 experience per log.

  • Experience needed - 9,043
  • Willow logs needed - 83
  • Time - 299 seconds
  • Logs cost = Coins 1000 1,577

Level 35-45 - Teak logsEdit

Teak logs The best way to get from level 35 to level 45 is by burning teak logs on a bonfire to which five or more players are contributing, which grants 126 experience per log.

  • Experience needed - 39,106
  • Teak logs needed - 311
  • Time - 1,120 seconds
  • Logs cost = Coins 1000 108,850

Level 45-50 - Maple logsEdit

Maple logs The best way to get from level 45 to level 50 is by burning maple logs on a bonfire to which five or more players are contributing, which grants 140.4 experience per log at level 45 (The experience receiving from burning maple logs is dependent on the player's Firemaking level).

  • Experience needed - 39,821
  • Maple logs needed - 284
  • Time - 1,023 seconds
  • Logs cost = Coins 1000 9,656

Level 50-58 - Mahogany logsEdit

Mahogany logs The best way to get from level 50 to level 58 is by burning mahogany logs on a bonfire to which five or more players are contributing, which grants 189 experience per log.

  • Experience needed - 123,133
  • Mahogany logs needed - 652
  • Time - 2,348 seconds
  • Logs cost = Coins 1000 495,520

Level 58-60 - Eucalyptus logsEdit

Eucalyptus logs The best way to get from level 58 to level 60 is by burning eucalyptus logs on a bonfire to which five or more players are contributing, which grants 204.75 experience per log.

  • Experience needed - 49,276
  • Eucalyptus logs needed - 241
  • Time - 868 seconds
  • Logs cost = Coins 1000 114,234

Level 60-75 - Yew logsEdit

Yew logs The best way to get from level 60 to level 75 is by burning yew logs on a bonfire to which five or more players are contributing, which grants 270.25 experience per log.

  • Experience needed - 936,679
  • Yew logs needed - 3,466
  • Time - 12,478 seconds
  • Logs cost = Coins 1000 1,681,010

Level 75-90 - Magic logsEdit

Magic logs The best way to get from level 75 to level 90 is by burning magic logs on a bonfire to which five or more players are contributing, which grants 320 experience per log.

  • Experience needed - 4,135,911
  • Magic logs needed - 12,925
  • Time - 46,530 seconds
  • Logs cost = Coins 1000 16,440,600

Level 90-99 - Elder logsEdit

Elder logs The best way to get from level 90 to level 99 is by burning elder logs on a bonfire to which five or more players are contributing, which grants 468 experience per log.

  • Experience needed - 7,688,099
  • Elder logs needed - 16,427
  • Time - 59,138 seconds
  • Logs cost = Coins 1000 67,284,992

Other methodsEdit

Level 30-99 - Willow logsEdit

Willow logs Willow logs are a cheap, albeit slow, route to achieving level 99 in Firemaking. Burning willow logs on a bonfire to which five or more players are contributing grants 110.25 experience per log.

  • Experience needed - 13,021,068
  • Willow logs needed - 118,105
  • Time - 425,178 seconds
  • Logs cost = Coins 1000 2,243,995

Level 45-99 - Maple logsEdit

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Maple logs Maple logs are another alternative method to reach 99. They're a compromise between the speed of yew logs and the relative cheapness of willow logs. Burning maple logs on a bonfire to which five or more players are contributing grants an average of 161.2 experience per log (the experience receiving from burning maple logs is dependent on the player's Firemaking level).
  • Experience needed - 12,972,919
  • Maple logs needed - 87,360
  • Time - 289,718 seconds
  • Logs cost = Coins 1000 3,267,264

Level 60-99 - Yew logsEdit

Yew logs Yew logs are yet another alternative method to reach 99. Burning yew logs on a bonfire to which five or more players are contributing grants 270.25 experience per log. Burning yew logs is a much faster method of reaching 99 than burning maple or willow logs, but it is considerably more expensive. As such, only players who value their time between 430,961 coins per hour and 3,600,605 coins per hour should burn yew logs.

  • Experience needed - 12,760,689
  • Yew logs needed - 47,219
  • Time - 169,989 seconds
  • Logs cost = Coins 1000 22,901,215

Level 83-99 - Curly rootsEdit

Curly root At level 83 Firemaking, curly roots, which yield 378.5 experience each, can be burned in special firepits found in the Jadinko Lair. They must first be chopped from curly (not straight) jade roots hanging from the ceiling near the slayer monsters there, requiring 83 Woodcutting. Four roots are received for each vine chopped, the vines chop quickly even at only 85 Woodcutting. At the minimum required levels with a ring of fire, players can expect to receive approximately 235,000 Firemaking experience per hour as well as approximately 23,500 Woodcutting experience. At high levels with full lumberjack clothing, the inferno adze, flame gloves and the ring of fire equipped, players can expect to receive approximately 35,000 Woodcutting experience as well as approximately 305,000 Firemaking experience per hour and over 1,100 jadinko favour, making this fourth in experience per hour behind burning magic or elder logs on five-player bonfires with flame gloves and the ring of fire equipped. However, this method of training Firemaking is free, potentially profitable, and, due to the fact that all the of roots in the player's inventory are burned automatically, semi-afkable.

TriviaEdit

  • When worn together, the Ring of fire and Flame gloves give +5% experience total when burning logs.
  • The inferno adze randomly burns logs while woodcutting. Thus, when using the inferno adze, is as if the player gains Firemaking experience as an "extra" while training woodcutting. Many players power-cut teak logs to achieve 99 Woodcutting. Gaining 13,000,000 woodcutting experience cutting teaks with an inferno adze would give approximately 4,820,000 Firemaking experience extra, this is an average of 2.7 Woodcutting experience for every 1 Firemaking experience. As the inferno adze requires 92 firemaking, it may be useful to get 92 firemaking before doing any serious amount of Woodcutting for experience. This method is especially useful for curly roots, where more than one root can be incinerated by the inferno adze at a time.
  • The Book of Char can be used if you have completed The Firemaker's Curse, it will give double the xp for walking over logs, but dropping the logs beforehand is very tedious. A much more efficient way of getting logs lined up on the ground is to fill BoBs with logs and dismiss them in a line. This allows a player to run continuously over the same line, burning 1 log in each stack of logs at a time, gaining a large amount of exp in the limited time the Book is activated.

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