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This thread was archived on 31 August 2009 by Azaz129.

Using a name other than your username in a signature can be fairly annoying, especially if you're the type who changes this pseudonym on a variably random basis. These "sig" name changes make keeping track of people difficult, and can likely be viewed on the same plane as a pseudo-sockpuppet by identifying as someone else in a discussion where people aren't likely to check your userpage to see who you really are. Discuss. -Byte_Master http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss336/byte_master1754/bytesig2.png http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss336/byte_master1754/bytesig3.png 19:27, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

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I agree. Signatures should clearly display the name of the user, and the signature itself generally shouldn't change every 1 or 2 weeks. It makes identifying the user difficult, and the point of having a signature is to identify the user. If you keep changing your name, or your signature, how can we identify you?   az talk   20:35, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - Why are signatures on the wiki any different from the ones in real life? Everyone A lot of people makes their signatures fancy (cursive) and signs with nicknames. Once you see the signature and click on the link you will know who it is. A perfect example is my signature: nobody had a problem when I changed it completely, and it says "Junior Cadet" instead of "Killr833." ShinyUnown T | C | E 20:51, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

I did! Honestly, you've taken on a second identity. The human mental process tends to assign one name to one persona, in essence, it gives you a new "voice," making you seem as if you're someone else. It just makes keeping track of and crossreferencing posts signed by "Killr883" with posts signed by "Junior Cadet" that much harder. -Byte_Master http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss336/byte_master1754/bytesig2.png http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss336/byte_master1754/bytesig3.png 21:16, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Also, I suggest you reread the point of this thread. I have nothing against "Making signatures fancy with cursive" or it's virtual equivalent, I'm talking about people who use names that differ from their actual username. I bet people in real life would have a problem if you suddenly started signing your name as "Michael Jackson" or "Martin Luther King" -Byte_Master http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss336/byte_master1754/bytesig2.png http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss336/byte_master1754/bytesig3.png 21:20, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - Hover over the name. You can tell who it is...not too hard.

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20:53, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Comment Not if using <span title> Example --> User:Frede173 FredeTalk 20:58, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Common browsers (Firefox, Safari, etc.) have a little bar at the bottom that displays the URL of the link you're hovering over. ShinyUnown T | C | E 21:00, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Regardless, if Stinkowing, for example, started signing with "Luigiman" or something, would you immediately know it's him? Not really. -Byte_Master http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss336/byte_master1754/bytesig2.png http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss336/byte_master1754/bytesig3.png 21:16, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Bahahahahahaha, Frede. :D http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3921/thehimmemote.pngGone. 04:31, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Huge Oppose - Without me writing my rs username as my signature, noone would know me. Runecrafting Mo 55 55 Talk|Sign 21:01, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

This is not Runescape, and your RS name should have no bearing on who you are and what you do here. Having an indentity that differs from your username here makes it harder to find you. (Eg: "I remember that Mo Mo guy... I can't find his userpage anywhere, who the heck was that? Oh well, I hope he posts something soon so I can figure this out." Besides, if you wanted to be known by your RS username, why did you call yourself Kalindrum here? -Byte_Master http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss336/byte_master1754/bytesig2.png http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss336/byte_master1754/bytesig3.png 21:16, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - You can look at your status bar, and if you hang around for a little while you figure who is what person, but I agree it should not change, but at most once in a while. If I used my username people would misread it. The issue is when people have very complex and confusing signatures. - TehKittyCat (talk) 21:09, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Strong Oppose - Never in my time as a wikian have I put my real username in my signature, it's always been "Enigma". If you don't know who that person is, just hover your mouse over their userpage link and you'll see, simple as that. Plus many people are known by their name in the signature and hardly ever their username (some examples are Christine, az, and many more) --— Enigma 21:38, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't see your nickname (or your examples) as being as much of a problem, as it's based on your username (or vice versa), and you don't ever change it. The problem lies more in those who are "Bob" and call themselves "TheBigBongo," and those who change their signature nickname frequently. -Byte_Master http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss336/byte_master1754/bytesig2.png http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss336/byte_master1754/bytesig3.png 21:56, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

This isn't your only problem with signatures. You could learn some lessons here. JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot 22:15, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - Its one of the single most annoying things about people on this wiki, but who cares because thats all it is, an annoyance. Cap and gogglesTEbuddy 22:17, 3 August 2009 (UTC)


Before anyone goes further in this discussion, I would like to say that this discussion should be about users "who changes this pseudonym on a variably random basis", not whether users should or should not use pseudonyms.

It doesn't matter if the signature is signed as Bob or BigBongo. But when the user's username is BigBongo, the user should sign as "BigBongo" or "Bob" (actual name). What I see in this wiki is people signing with a third identity, which changes over time. One month it is "BigBongo", and the next month it is "HugeTim", and the month after that, something else. If you're going to use pseudonyms, stick to one and try not to change it.   az talk   22:40, 3 August 2009 (UTC)


Comment - I definitely find changing the main text in a signature confusing. Personally, I find it annoying, but that's just my opinion. I do think changing the main text on a signature is something that we should discourage as a general practice. In this thread alone, there have been 2 instances for me where I saw a seemingly "new user" only to realize it's someone who's been around for a while. I think it distracts from any kind of positive reputation that editors build up after showing the community who they are and what they're about. I don't, however, think we need a rule for it. I would like to encourage users, if they feel that they must change their sig, try to include the old name (like Andrew/Soldier did) for a reasonable amount of time, so people realize that you've changed your sig. A signature is meant to identify, not confuse. Thanks, Bob ... err I mean Air rune Tollerach hates SoF Fire rune 00:11, 4 August 2009 (UTC)\

Support - I have a photographic memory and I usually associated the shape of the signature with the user more so then I read the signature to find our who it is. Often with users changing there name as frequent as some do only disrupt their identity more so than providing them with one. I don't mind if the user names are not the same as in the sig, but don't change it so often.

00:21, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - Sure, having "Panjy16" shown plain and simple would make things easier, but I don't think such a big deal should be made over whatever name is on a signature. I've watered my signature down a lot, so names wouldn't really be much of a problem on my side. Like Bonzi, I too have a photographic memory, but I don't have problems with people changing their signatures constantly. If anyone changes their signature a lot, it'd be Colo and Sasori. Though I know Sasori's style in signatures anyway. If people change their signature, I'd adjust to it. Names on signatures don't really matter to me because I don't think people would use <span title> to throw you off. If I was constantly hunting someone down on the wiki, names on signatures would matter. Well anyway, it's not going to kill you to click on the link to find out who it is.  Panjy16  00:41, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - You can always hover over a link or click on it to see who it is.... Andrew talk 06:27, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

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